chatter box
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Three years ago my X would give my daughter a letter to give to me. She was five at the time. Later my X would have my daughter write mean hatefull things to me. The judge addressed this in court and put an end to it. But I have a problem that puts my daughter back in the middle again. As many of you know my daughter has a problem that causes her to soil herself uncontrolably. We've been to the doctor and it is caused by mental stress and a physical problem. Meds, diet and self confedence are very emportant to solve the problem. Also knowing how she is doing on a daily basis is emportant. We had a party last weekend when she was with my X. Pizza and cake both things my daughter can not have without her meds. My daughter started crying because of all this. Her grandad told her something and it just made it worse. I had to tell my X FIL to go get it. Until then I had to calm my daughter down. Then friday my wife and I went to have lunch with our kids, same age same school, for only the second time all year. My X fil showed up and just sat there didn't eat and didn't talk. I had taken a nice meal that my daughter ate most of but she wanted something else. I just told her after she ate everything on her plate then she could get something else.
Now I have a full page letter from my X telling me to stop denieing my daughter food and that she got sick last weekend after the party because of me. I asked my daughter about it and she said no she didn't get sick Saturday but two days before when she was over there for dinner. Just what my daughter told me when I picked her up that evening. I questioned her about it and she just kept saying she didn't get sick. I finally said are you sure you mom said you did. Maybe I shouldn't have said because my daughter called her mom on the phone and asked her why she was lieing and corrected her mom about the date. I didn't mean to put my daugher in the midle like that but what can I do if her mom just keeps making things up.
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tiredofnagging
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Always a shame when the spouse takes it out on the kids. Uses the child to "get back" or "get even". Not their fault when the adults in their lives act like children. And they do not deserve anything less than love and nurturing.
Hang in there Chatterbox....
-------------------- This Too Shall Pass
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Jada
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It's hard to say that you are wrong to ask your child about when she was sick because she has medical issues that you need to address. And since they are also dietary, you need to know when it happened.
And your ex clearly is in denial or is just trying to make your life more difficult at the expense of your child.
Have you considered modifying the parenting plan where your ex has less time with your child?
If your daughter will tell a GAL or the judge what she tells you about when she gets sick, and especially if it contradicts when your ex says she gets sick, that will help you.
Unfortunately, it will put your daughter in the middle. Sometimes that is unavoidable. Your daughter's health is more important. And all of the turmoil that your ex is creating isn't helping at all.
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chatter box
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[quote Have you considered modifying the parenting plan where your ex has less time with your child? [/quote]
yes, but I haven't found an attorney that thinks I can win a case for that yet. We are going back to court anyway for some other issues and I will have to just give her more rope to hang herself with again. Everyone says to not get kids in the midle but I just do not see how in my case.
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ttina
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your girl is 8? right.... there may be a way to get this info w/o even mentioning mom.... keep a journal of the illness and dates/times.... you can say it is for the doctors... and I am sure they will benefit from the knowledge... but that way, matter of factly ask and record the instances with both your and her time. I hope this helps to diffuse this particular issue for you... another will pop up next week.
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chatter box
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I offered to discuss all of my X's concerns with her and either my daughters theropiest or doctor and she just refused but asked that I stop abusing our daughter. She just wants to keep the drama going is all. I wish I could find a way to make it stop.
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ttina
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You are expecting an unreasonable woman to act reasonable. Unfortunately Ben Franklin's words ring true here... "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results." -Ben Franklin I'll take it one step further.... You aren't a lunatic so stop expecting different results.
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KU girl
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That poor baby girl.
This can't be easy on her, but you sound like you're being the parent she needs you to be.
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gigi
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Often, drama continues as long as you react to it. So the question is how to stop reacting, more than how to persuade her to stop. And whether it stops or you stop noticing because you're not reacting, it stops being an issue for you.
one of those, "you can't control the ex, you can only control yourself" principles that's sometimes hard to put into practice.
If you can figure out how to redice or extinguish your reaction to her, it'd be great. Maybe develop a pat answer for her demands, "she eats fine with me. She was not sick with me. I brought her enough to eat. You weren't there." Or maybe just, "I can't believe you any more, you've lied about this stuff too much" (oh NO... not that... those things might even escalate this).
Hmmm... what to say, what to say... How about nothing, and just make note in the calendar of the complaint, when the complaint occurred, what she was complaining of. Ask the daughter to make certain of the timing, and note HER answer... then put down what it is that the daughter eat on this calendar.
For you, keeping a health log for her is probably necessary anyways... and maybe you could keep a highlighter pen around to highlight the ones where you notice that the mother's report and the daugter's reports about what happened are different. It's necesssary to figure this out for the health reasons, and so if there's a discrpancy, it could become a problem and it's worthy highlighting so that you don't mistakenly base what you feed her in the future based upon reports that might have been in error about the timing of illnesses. Over time, you might teach your daughter to keep her own health log so that she will be able to note her own food issues and allergies, and by the time she's an adult, if there are ever any health emergencies, she'll hav ea lot to take to the hospital to help the docs figure out what might have caused the emergency.
Since she's too young now, it's worth keeping in the log.
So, start a separate calendar JUST for this... and when your ex or xFIL says anything, you just say, "thank you, I'll note it in the log", and you also ask your daughter for a description of stuff in case she ate anything or got sick at all when you weren't there... so the log is complete.
It turns this struggle into a (we know false) appearance of two separated parents working together to resolve their daughter's serious health issue. Sometimes acting AS IF something is taking place, it really starts to actually take place... so it MIGHT work? MAYBE... and if it doesn't, then you have a log of dates & times.
And if the principle of drama continuing as long as it has an effect is true, then turning this drama into a cut & dried log of events might reduce the effect for the ex so that she stops all the drama? It's worth doing anyways, even if only for the health issues... and if it has a side effect of reducing the drama, then great.
Just remember to have some pat answers for her reports and craziness... and maybe even keep the log nearby at all times so you can take it out and note what she says in the log while she's having her tirade at you.
When I did some customer service, I found that taking notes while people are having a fit usually calms them RIGHT down!
It might work. It's worth a try.
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