Lola98
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I’ve been married for a little over a year. It pains me deeply to have to write the following. Any advice that others can give me would be greatly appreciated but I know that ultimately only I can make this decision.
My husband went through a very hostile divorce and custody battle in which he lost dearly. He is still to this day, 5 years later, wrapped up in battles over CS, court fights over custody and visitation, financial matters with BM, and bankruptcy. His daughter is only 5, she was an infant when he and BM initiated their divorce. Their divorce drove him into bankruptcy. He pays about 40% of his earnings in CS, plus other costs. BM is also seeking additional money she claims she is owed since the divorce, this was in addition to the lions share of marital property she walked away with. She was from an affluent family and they had quite a bit of marital property so what she received was not a pittance by any means. He did not even try to dispute it because all he cared about was custody. In short, he lost and has paid a high financial and emotional price. This was a number of years ago. My husband is a strong man and I believed that by the time we met he had moved on although having been divorced myself I understand you always carry some of it with you. The loss of his daughter, I could not of course comprehend. He does not see her frequently. He was honest and disclosed everything to me in good faith and I accepted everything fully. I figured, the past is the past. What was important to me was our future.
Unfortunately what I have come to learn about my husband is that he is haunted by the specter of his first divorce and has some very deeply rooted trust issues which did not emerge until several months into our marriage. I have realized now that it would have been helpful if he had made some attempt to work on these issues with a professional. Or at least be a big enough person to get past them some other way. I always feel like I am paying the price for what happened in his first marriage. He refuses to get a joint account with me. He is very evasive about the money he has in his own separate accounts such as his 401(k), and worst of all I strongly suspect he is hiding assets from me. Most humiliating of all, he is quick to document and record our arguments as if trying to preserve them in the event of a divorce. He keeps a tape recorder and camera with him at all times and has tried to tape record me and take my picture during times we have argued. It’s crazy and humiliating, but I try to remember that it’s because of what happened to him in his first marriage, forgive him and move past it. He has compared me to his ex-wife. We recently purchased a home together, and this was the most harrowing experience we have had so far in our marriage. I had to secure the mortgage because his credit was ruined in the bankruptcy. He did not have the money for the deposit, but I did. He is paranoid about the fact that I supplied the funds for the house and is badgering me to get his name on the mortgage, which the lender will not allow. He coerced me to put his name on the deed. I did so under emotional duress at the closing, against my complete better judgment, because I am living in fear that BM will place a lien on it once she runs an asset check on him. The only thing I can figure is that he has come to distrust me as equally as he distrusts his ex-wife. It’s like he fears I will do the same thing to him that she did. I have never given him any reasons to distrust me. We have had some arguments, but his fear is irrational.
We have had it out pretty bad at times. It is very hard to please him. He is very critical of me and my daughter who lives with us. My daughter is in those tween years so she can be a challenge. I think he resents that he can not have his own daughter so he takes things out on my daughter and the fact that she is in those tough years makes it all too easy. We are in marriage counseling which I set up for us, and I pay for. When we are in front of the counselor he is very cordial and polite, but as soon as we leave the counselor’s office, he will make a snide remark. He also seems to resent me seeing the counselor for individual sessions which alternate with our marital sessions. I am doing the individual sessions to help myself be a better wife, mother, and person, but I think he feels threatened by the fact that I am discussing the marriage outside of his presence.
I realize now in hindsight that I should have gotten to know him better before we agreed to get married and had a longer courtship. But now I am married and the die is cast so what do I do?
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oct_cat
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Reged: 08/27/07
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Would he consider also doing individual counseling sessions himself? It sounds like he has the majority of issues to deal with, & sounds as if the joint sessions are a farce to him.
Or can you sit down with him & explain to him how you are feeling (just like you did here). Maybe he's so embroiled in the past experience that he doesn't realize how much it is affecting you & your daughter. Sounds like he's really trying to take control of his "new" family, but in an unhealthy way. All I can say is I think he needs to be made to understand just how negatively it is affecting your marital relationship.
-------------------- Some ppl r like Slinkies not good for anything but u still smile when u push them down stairs
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Ang22007
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Great advice from oct, I am trying to prevent for other reasons, but when I really put my heart into a post, sometimes I let my H read them and the advice given. It is all in black and white and when you initially wrote it, had no plans for H to see. Great stuff to talk about when you are trying.
You are in a rough spot, both H and I are on our 2nd marriage, both of our firsts lasted about 2 years so not a whole lot of baggage, but some. We have been married 10 years this time. Lessons learned from first one, firmly make me believe that all relationships boil down to about the same thing. Sex, communication and money. Perhaps if you can step up the communication, it can explain the money? Not you but him, he seems to have major issues with that.
Your daughter being disrespected bothers me, I have a son from the first too and that is a "NO-NO"! Lay down the law on that one hun!
I wish you the best. I think that your individual counseling will help a lot for you.
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boothby171
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Birth control until he works though his issues to your total, honest, fully-self-respecting satisfaction....
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Lola98
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Believe me, we have discussed it til I am blue. I feel like my husband doesn't love, respect or trust me anymore. To me, love is an action. He says he does but talk is cheap. I will admit, he is good about acts of service such as doing work around our home such as housework and yardwork but when it comes to showing love for me and my daughter it is just not there anymore.
As far as individual counseling, I don't believe he is truly open to it. He told me that he is Irish and "Freud said that the Irish are impervious to psychoanalysis". I think he believes that to go to therapy is to admit you are weak and can't handle things on your own. His way of relieving stress is just to go the gym, which is something he does everytime we have an argument. I try to give him his space.
I don't want a divorce, I want things to be the way they used to be. But I know that's not realistic. I also know that marriage takes two and I haven't been perfect, part of what I'm learning in therapy is how to break unhealthy patterns, since I can not change him, how I can change my reactions, and make our relationship better. Some of the damage here has been my fault, when he is cold and mistrusting I have gotten scared and upset. We've both said some things to eachother we didn't mean (at least I know I didn't). When I saw what was happening I stopped and got into counseling, first individual and then marital.
The thing is that I am in love with him and was able to forgive and move on, but he hasn't.
I am very sad and wish more than anything that we could be the way we used to be.
Thank you for listening.
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ChurchDivorce
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While it sounds ultra paranoid etc., believe me, I've been tangentially involved while couples divorced and seen the histrionics that women used and judges believed. I know I know all women do not do this. The problem is that all women CAN do this and mainly get away with it. He has been made to feel so helpless and so wronged that he lives in an alternative reality that was created by the ex and the family court. If you find this problematic, and you are a female reading this, when you have close friends who do this to theor husbands in divorce, please tell them it ruins lives worse then anything "the jerk" could have done in the marriage.
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Lola98
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I agree with what you said about his ex and the family courts and stuff. Before he came to see me as his enemy I could cite chapter and verse about fathers rights, parental alienation, etc. I am on his side in this but he does not see that. He has this mob mentality or as you put it an alternate universe. I don't know how to get through to him because I feel like the lack of trust he has for women in general has crept in and invaded our marriage.
Trust, first and foremost is a choice, after that it becomes a process. But one has to first make the choice and then begin the process. I have laid this all out to him but the more we talk about it, to me, the worse he gets. I feel like I am taking all the crap he never got a chance to give his first wife. Does that make sense?
I do miss my husband terribly. I hate that it has turned out this way and keep hoping it will turn around.
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RevengeofC&S
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Reged: 08/10/07
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Loc: Pennsylvania
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Lola,
I was writing you a long story and my computer skills suck. Cliff notes: (Who is Cliff?) Don't ignore what you view as "Little Things". No excuse - we are guys, the "hunters, gatherers, and providers". What you may see as insignificant is what we, as the "men", is our way of trying to show you how much we love you. No excuse, but please think about that. DIVORCE SUCKS FOR ALL OF US!!!!!
Good Luck:)
Ron
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Lola98
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I can accept that. Thanks.
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Sarah1014
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Lola--I sent you a PM. Click the little blinking envelope.
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