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Stage 1 - Tension building Tension starts to build, minor incidents begin, breakdown of communication, victim feels the need to placate the abuser, tension becomes unbearable Stage 2 - Incident - any type of abuse occurs: physical, sexual, and/or emotional Stage 3 - Honeymoon stage Abuser apologizes for abuse, promises it will never happen again, blames victim for provoking abuse, denies abuse took place or that it wasn't as bad as the victim claims, gift-giving by the abuser. Stage 4 - Calm Incident is "forgotten", no abuse is taking place, promises made during honeymoon phase are being met. Then it's back to stage 1 - tension building. The cycle can happen hundreds of times in an abusive relationship. Each stage lasts a different amount of time in a relationship with the total cycle taking from a few hours to a year or more to complete. (WP51:Cycvio) gdb 8/90 Keep speaking out - don't be afraid to leave or seek help. |
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Wow...I have read this how many times before?? but fear...that they have instilled in us...and not knowing what to expect...is the stopping factor.... But you do reach a point of desperation...and all the things that you know and have heard that are right...sink in....and something is done....and the relief that follows this decision....is the most peace and empowerment you have felt in a long,long time....then you know if it is right or wrong...clarity of your own thoughts and feelings is the reward...the strenght that you acquire from just doing what is neccessary to live the right way...is a feeling that dominates anything that happened... When you know better...you do better and learn more about yourself and the power of survival is very strong... |
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Isn't it amazing that I didn't realize the cycle was happening in my own house - even though I was helping other women deal with it? Sometimes you have to step away from the situation to see what is actually happening - while typing this yesterday was when I could truly see the pattern that happened in my house. It started off as a large gap and then increasing got more frequent. |
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I really don't think we see ourselves as having a problem...until we hear what someone else has gone thru...then we begin to realise that we too...have something wrong in our lives.... |
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mistake#2 this is exactly how my abuse was sporadic it seems every 10 years there was a huge unacceptable episode, however the last decade it occured more than that. what i had not noticed or realized was that my husband was also being abusive by not helping the family meet it's daily needs. my kids had gone to bed numerous times with hunger in their stomaches, if not for my family being near by or the assistance of the local shelter we would have never gotten over those times. He never went a day however without his drugs or alcohol. But telling our daughter she was fat enough to go without eating for a month seemed appropriate to him somehow! That verbal abuse to her was the worst!!! YEAH!!! i am so happy he is no longer here, life seems so much clearer, calmer, consistent. We still struggle but somehow it just isn't as hard with him gone. thank you ladies for reminding me again i have made the right decision. |
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My kids were too afraid of him retaliating to tell me what he was doing. Calling my 7 year old daughter a b#tch, throwing my 4 year old son across the room into his bed making him hit the wall, picking my children up by their throats and holding them against the wall while screaming profanities in their face, telling my son he's stupid and a ratfink, knocking my son in the back of his head, grabbing my daughter by her bad wrist to pull her from room to room, not feeding my kids when I was at work and making them go to bed hungry because he was too busy smoking weed and playing video games. The poor dears practically had a nervous break-down when I thought we were going back to MI, they begged me not to make them go - the absolute opposite of what I thought would happen, cause I didn't know what was happening to them. I thought the abuse was only to me and that they knew nothing about it. When asked why they didn't tell, it was because when they had told me in the past I would confront him because I was not going to allow it - but then when I wasn't there he'd punish them for telling me. Calm and consistent - I enjoy that now in my life too! |
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Stbx would say I was telling my sons horrible things about him and that's why they did'nt want to talk to him.. When my older son was learning to drive the poor kid had to have him for a teacher not me.....and once when we were all going somewhere together...stbx decided to let him pratice....I never heard such bad mouthing and yelling...my youngest son was 4 or 5 yrs.old at that time and he just bust-out screaming he was so afraid....he just drove a few feet....then stbx proceeded to tell me I raised a bunch of sissies that can't take it....I was just shocked...and remained quiet till we got home...then all hell broke loose...He told me I was'nt women enough for him and that I was stupid and he doubted these kids were even his...and I better not think of leaving him because he'll take these kids from me so fast my head would spin...and from now on...I better listen to him..or things could get worse.... I hope there is a special hell for these jerks..... |
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I think it's important to many that we educate everyone about domestic violence. I'm going to keep bumping older threads for the newer posters...hope it helps. |
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bumping it up again! |
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Thank you for bumping this up to the front. It sounds like the last year of my life ! He came to see our daughter today. Nice and sweet and tears... I didn't let the tears get to me this time. I asked him where he wanted to be served the divorce papers... home or work. He hasn't done a thing the counselor told him last week to do. Said he might not go back to the counselor because he said harsh things to him last week. I reminded him he wasn't taking our daughter out of my house without continueing counseling and taking parenting classes. |
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Thanks for the bump. This describes my situation as well, even after the divorce. When my ex has his "episode" they tend to increase in intensity each time. Never physical, always verbal and emotional or whatever he could do to hurt me. Just when I think he can't possibly do anything worse, he tops himself. I am so tired of living in fear at what will set him off. Add drugs or alcohol to this mix and the "incident" becomes very unpredictable. |
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Isn't it strange that there are so many similarities in the tactics & mind games these guys play, & things they say? |
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BUMPING IT UP AGAIN. [quote]Stage 1 - Tension building Tension starts to build, minor incidents begin, breakdown of communication, victim feels the need to placate the abuser, tension becomes unbearable Stage 2 - Incident - any type of abuse occurs: physical, sexual, and/or emotional Stage 3 - Honeymoon stage Abuser apologizes for abuse, promises it will never happen again, blames victim for provoking abuse, denies abuse took place or that it wasn't as bad as the victim claims, gift-giving by the abuser. Stage 4 - Calm Incident is "forgotten", no abuse is taking place, promises made during honeymoon phase are being met. Then it's back to stage 1 - tension building. The cycle can happen hundreds of times in an abusive relationship. Each stage lasts a different amount of time in a relationship with the total cycle taking from a few hours to a year or more to complete. (WP51:Cycvio) gdb 8/90 Keep speaking out - don't be afraid to leave or seek help. [/quote] |
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The time between stage 1 and stage 4...starts to dimimish...and it only becomes stage 1 and stage 2...that is when there is no hope left...and as I found out...staying can lead to living in my bedroon with the door bolted every night...no life....if you can remember the you are worth more than this and make yourself aware..not ashamed..it isn't your fault like they want you to believe...would you ask for this???...then it isn't your fault... get yourself to an abuse organization..it is private and very personal...don't feel like your damage goods..if you remain uniformed..then they will win and it will get much worse..if you can imagine anything more worse the degrading another human being for the sole purpose of feeling good about themselves. |
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violence can be verbal emotional and physical. the in between stages can be VERY long. once you forget or stop toeing the line... ...look out! and a 'smart' person....leaves NO marks dam n it. between violence...days, weeks, months, yeasrs, there is the never ending control over your mind, emotions and soul. i Hate abuse. i hate being the toad boiled in the water who almost exploded and didnt even know what was happening. glad i jumped out of the water. now this toad just needs to find the missing lily pad. for crying out loud! taryn. |
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It's been a while since I bumped this up...so I thought I'd push it up again. I wanted to add something to those who think an abuser can just get better without seeking professional help. My now 8 year old son had witnessed his brother & sister being "manhandled" we'll call it...heard his father growl, cuss and name call...was abused by him also, still talks about the time that his dad suffocated him and the times that his dad threw him...but he was willing to forgive his dad. I heard many times last year after short visitations how his dad wasn't MEAN anymore and how he had "changed". I would smile and tell my son that it was wonderful & that I was happy for him, all while knowing that he was still abusing our daughter, not doing what was best for our sons health and just waiting & hoping that he would stop altogether. Two weeks ago he hit my son in the face. My son has had multiple health issues and had sinus surgery on halloween which was then followed by complications. He hadn't seen our son in 5 months but after having him for only two days he had already hit him in the face, called him names & cussed at him. Then he went back to the "honeymoon stage"...so what does my son think now? |
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I'll bite. Your son thinks he did something wrong & deserved the hit, his father has apologized & is all better now & all your son has to do is not be... wahtever he was before... again. How silly of him for being sick & having complications & then annoying his father, who of course had all the stress of having to fly to florida & rent a hotel room just to spend time with him. Heck, I'll bet your ex even blamed it on YOU that he was violent. YOU made him take this visit there, under those horrible conditions that stressed him out & ... Cycle of violence 101. Do I pass the course, professor? |
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these are some interesting pieces, i need some advice or support or something. my wife and i are not physical with eachother, however, we have been equally verbally abusive to eachother... i think her more than me, but im sure she would say the same about me...anyway, what i can not take anymore is her using my 2 1/2 yr old son as a pawn against me both psychologically and emotionally. I love my son to pieces, as would any parent-he is the sun in my universe! the only reason i am still around her. she gets these wild ideas to leave for (in my book) no rational reason. granted they are safe wherever they go (neither of us do drugs or drink...were both cops actually) and return the next day. she constantly threatens to leave with him and always says shes going to take him bc im not deserving to be with him. there is so much she does so frequently, i cant even begin to describe it in words on here. i guess what im trying to say is that i have noticed a cycle with her/us and i can almost tell exactly when each phase is begining and ending. for me its a little hard to leave bc its not physical...eventhough everything i read says this is still violence and abuse. i wish i could leave her knowing i would win custody of our child. i really think that if i leave, she will (as i already see her doing it) start treating/talking to him the same controlling way. i feel like im stuck between a rock and a hard place. stay and be miserable with her and raise my son in a frictious/tense environment or leave, regain my sanity from her and hardly see my son and fear for his upbringing? and not to mention, she will be leaving the state (to the other side of the country) if we split up. i really dont know where to go from here or what to do? anything will help... thanks C |
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Now that my husband has left me I have finally woken up a realised that for better or worse should not include a constant barrage of emotional abuse to both me and my daughter. Even gone though I am beginning to live in fear of what he may do to try to turn aour daughter his way. He lives in NF and we are in NB and he is planning to come get his things and see our daughter sometime this month. Since leaving he has been very agitated and has already started with holding money and now he is threatening to take everything important to me. I know in my head that the law will side with me 100% because I have had documentation and witnesses to the abuse but in my heart I don't think he cares about the law and he might do something without thinking through the consequences. I look forward to the day that I don't have to worry about walking on eggshells and what I can do or not do to not set him off. |
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Confuseddad you sound like you have lived my life. I can only tell you I stayed because I loved that part of my husband he was before he had the head injury and developed full blown PTSD but I didn't accept that he was really gone already and that he was slowly turning me into someone I hated and in the process he was damaging our daughters emotional stability too. I ended up waiting till he left me and it took 13 years of daily fights and pain. Now that he is gone he is still trying to control my life by with holding money we need to live but at least now that my head is clearer I know I would never go back and I will never let anyone demean me or my daughter again. At least go to a lawyer and lay it all out and ask their opinion on your chances for custody. Start keeping a journal of every incident to support your side. Talk to professionals like marriage counsellors, Drs, and even friends to see if they see things the way you do. Then you will know what you must do for your own sanity and your sons. I know the hardest part for me will be letting our daughter go see him as required because since he has never physically abused us I have no choice, and as hard as it is she deserves to try to have a relationship with her father. Good luck. |
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bumping it up so that others may get some useful information |
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[quote]Stage 1 - Tension building Tension starts to build, minor incidents begin, breakdown of communication, victim feels the need to placate the abuser, tension becomes unbearable Stage 2 - Incident - any type of abuse occurs: physical, sexual, and/or emotional Stage 3 - Honeymoon stage Abuser apologizes for abuse, promises it will never happen again, blames victim for provoking abuse, denies abuse took place or that it wasn't as bad as the victim claims, gift-giving by the abuser. Stage 4 - Calm Incident is "forgotten", no abuse is taking place, promises made during honeymoon phase are being met. Then it's back to stage 1 - tension building. The cycle can happen hundreds of times in an abusive relationship. Each stage lasts a different amount of time in a relationship with the total cycle taking from a few hours to a year or more to complete. (WP51:Cycvio) gdb 8/90 Keep speaking out - don't be afraid to leave or seek help. [/quote] |
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This is pretty useful too - puts a whole lot into perspective. Characteristics of Verbal Abuse 1. Verbal abuse is hurtful and usually attacks the nature and abilities of the partner. She may come to feel that she is the problem, rather than her partner. 2. Verbal abuse may be overt (through angry outbursts and name- calling) or covert (involving very subtle comments, even something that approaches brainwashing). Overt verbal abuse is usually blaming and accusatory, and consequently confusing to the partner. 3. Verbal abuse is manipulative and controlling. Even disparaging comments may be voiced in an extremely sincere and concerned way. But the goal is to control and manipulate. 4. Verbal abuse is insidious. The partner's self-esteem gradually diminishes, usually without her realizing it. She may consciously or unconsciously try to change her behavior so as not to upset the abuser. 5. Verbal abuse is unpredictable. In fact, unpredictability is one of the most significant characteristics of verbal abuse. The partner is stunned, shocked, and thrown off balance by her mate's sarcasm, angry jab, put-down, or hurtful comment. 6. Verbal abuse is not a side issue. It is the issue in the relationship. When a couple is having an argument about a real issue, the issue can be resolved. In a verbally abusive relationship, there is no specific conflict. The issue is the abuse, and this issue is not resolved. There is no closure. 7. Verbal abuse expresses a double message. There is incongruence between the way the abuser speaks and his real feelings. For example, he may sound very sincere and honest while he is telling his partner what is wrong with her. 8. Verbal abuse usually escalates, increasing in intensity, frequency, and variety. The verbal abuse may begin with put-downs disguised as jokes. Later other forms might surface. Sometimes the verbal abuse may escalate into physical abuse, starting with "accidental" shoves, pushes, and bumps. |
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I spent years being humiliated and belitted and it began to feel normal.Verbal abuse is worse than physical abuse because no one see's the scars....and it is your word against thier denial. Thanks for the validation and information.Every little bit helps remind me...I am not to blame for his anger. Nor do I plan on tolerating anymore abuse. I woke up. http://www.kalimunro.com/Awakening.html The Awakening by Sonny Carroll There comes a time in your life when you finally get it... When in the midst of all your fears and insanity you stop dead in your tracks and somewhere the voice inside your head cries out - ENOUGH! Enough fighting and crying or struggling to hold on. And, like a child quieting down after a blind tantrum, your sobs begin to subside, you shudder once or twice, you blink back your tears and through a mantle of wet lashes you begin to look at the world from a new perspective. This is your awakening. You realize that it is time to stop hoping and waiting for something, or someone, to change or for happiness, safety and security to come galloping over the next horizon. You come to terms with the fact that there aren’t always fairytale endings (or beginnings for that matter) and that any guarantee of "happily ever after" must begin with you. Then a sense of serenity is born of acceptance. So you begin making your way through the “reality of today” rather than holding out for the “promise of tomorrow.” You realize that much of who you are, and the way you navigate through life is, in great part, a result of all the social conditioning you’ve received over the course of a lifetime. And you begin to sift through all the nonsense you were taught about: how you should look and how much you should weigh what you should wear and where you should shop where you should live or what type of car your should drive who you should sleep with and how you should behave who you should marry and why you should stay the importance of having children or what you owe your family Slowly you begin to open up to new worlds and different points of view. And you begin reassessing and redefining who you are and what you really believe in. And you begin to discard the doctrines you have outgrown, or should never have practiced to begin with. You accept the fact that you are not perfect and that not everyone will love, appreciate or approve of who or what you are... and that’s OK... they are entitled to their own views and opinions. And, you come to terms with the fact that you will never be a size 5 or a “perfect 10” Or a perfect human being for that matter. So you stop trying to compete with the image inside your head or agonizing over how you compare. And you take a long look at yourself in the mirror and you make a promise to give yourself the same unconditional love and support you give so freely to others. Then a sense of confidence is born of self-approval. And, you stop maneuvering through life merely as a “consumer” hungry for your next fix, a new dress, another pair of shoes or looks of approval and admiration from family, friends or even strangers who pass by. Then you discover that “it is truly in giving that we receive and that the joy and abundance you seek grows out of the giving. And you recognize the importance of “creating” & “contributing” rather than “obtaining” & “accumulating.” And you give thanks for the simple things you’ve been blessed with; things that millions of people upon the face of the earth can only dream about a full refrigerator, clean running water, a soft warm bed and the freedom to pursue your own dreams. And then you begin to love and to care for yourself. You stop engaging in self-destructive behaviors including participating in dysfunctional relationships. You begin eating a balanced diet, drinking more water and exercising. And because you’ve learned that fatigue drains the spirit and creates doubt and fear, you give yourself permission to rest. And just as food is fuel for the body, laughter is fuel for the spirit and so you make it a point to create time for play. Then you learn about love and relationships, how to love, how much to give in love, when to stop giving and when to walk away. And you allow only the hands of a lover who truly loves and respects you to glorify you with his touch. You learn that people don’t always say what they mean or mean what they say, intentionally or unintentionally and that not everyone will always come through and interestingly enough, it’s not always about you. So, you stop lashing out and pointing fingers or looking to place blame for the things that were done to you or weren’t done for you. And you learn to keep your Ego in check and to acknowledge and redirect the destructive emotions it spawns; anger, jealousy and resentment. You learn how to say I was wrong and to forgive people for their own human frailties. You learn to build bridges instead of walls and about the healing power of love as it is expressed through a kind word, a warm smile or a friendly gesture. And, at the same time, you eliminate any relationships that are hurtful or fail to uplift and edify you. You stop working so hard at smoothing things over and setting your needs aside. You learn that feelings of entitlement are perfectly OK and that it is your right to want or expect certain things. And you learn the importance of communicating your needs with confidence and grace. You learn that the only cross to bear is the one you choose to carry and that eventually martyrs are burned at the stake. Then you learn to distinguish between guilt, and responsibility and the importance of setting boundaries and learning to say NO. You learn that you don’t know all the answers, it’s not your job to save the world and that sometimes you just need to Let Go. Moreover, you learn to look at people as they really are and not as you would want them to be, and you are careful not to project your neediness or insecurities onto a relationship. You learn that you will not be, more beautiful, more intelligent, more lovable or important because of the man on your arm or the child that bears your name. You learn that just as people grow and change, so it is with love and relationships and that that not everyone can always love you the way you would want them to. So you stop appraising your worth by the measure of love you are given. And suddenly you realize that it’s wrong to demand that someone live their life or sacrifice their dreams just to serve your needs, ease your insecurities, or meet “your” standards and expectations. You learn that the only love worth giving and receiving is the love that is given freely without conditions or limitations. And you learn what it means to love. So you stop trying to control people, situations and outcomes. You learn that “alone” does not mean “lonely” and you begin to discover the joy of spending time “with yourself” and “on yourself.” Then you discover the greatest and most fulfilling love you will ever know. Self Love. And so, it comes to pass that through understanding your heart heals; and now all new things are possible. Moving along, you begin to avoid Toxic people and conversations. And you stop wasting time and energy rehashing your situation with family and friends. You learn that talk doesn’t change things and that unrequited wishes can only serve to keep you trapped in the past. So, you stop lamenting over what could or should have been and you make a decision to leave the past behind. Then you begin to invest your time and energy to affect positive change. You take a personal inventory of all your strengths and weaknesses and the areas you need to improve in order to move ahead. You set your goals and map out a plan of action to see things through. You learn that life isn’t always fair and you don’t always get what you think you deserve and you stop personalizing every loss or disappointment. You learn to accept that sometimes bad things happen to good people and that these things are not an act of God... but merely a random act of fate. And you stop looking for guarantees because you’ve learned that the only thing you can really count on is the unexpected and that whatever happens, you’ll learn to deal with it. And you learn that the only thing you must truly fear is the great robber baron of all time FEAR itself. So you learn to step right into and through your fears because to give into fear is to give away the right to live life on your terms. You learn that much of life truly is a self-fulfilling prophesy and you learn to go after what you want and not to squander your life living under a cloud of indecision or feelings of impending doom. Then, YOU LEARN ABOUT MONEY... the personal power and independence it brings and the options it creates. And you recognize the necessity to create your own personal wealth. Slowly, you begin to take responsibility for yourself by yourself and you make yourself a promise to never betray yourself and to never ever settle for less than your heart’s desire. Then a sense of power is born of self-reliance. And you live with honor and integrity because you know that these principles are not the outdated ideals of a by-gone era but the mortar that holds together the foundation upon which you must build your life. And you make it a point to keep smiling, to keep trusting and to stay open to every wonderful opportunity and exciting possibility. Then you hang a wind chime outside your window to remind yourself what beauty there is in Simplicity. |
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HeartOn. Thank you for sharing this. It's brilliant. |
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I wanted to add as in my case that it was the wife that was the abuser. Emotional abuse and a few times physical. Being a guy that was ashamed of it would hide it and not let others know. After 19 years of being married I had had all I was going to take when it started being directed at our son. That was the straw that broke the camels back. For the first time in over a year my son will sleep in his own room without fear of his mom. My case might be the only one out of a thousand or more but it does happen. To all the women here that have had to deal with the abuse of what ever kind it might be. Seek help for yourself and your children so that you won't have to deal with it ever again. Tatakai |