military_wifey
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is wife entitled to the retirement that the military husband(ex) has invested in? been married 7 years and he's served his 20 years already. any help would be appreciated. Thanks
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Ang22007
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I believe that the only way the wife can be entitled is if she was married for over ten years of his military service, you will have to check with legal or retirements.
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theanswerguy
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[quote]is wife entitled to the retirement that the military husband(ex) has invested in? been married 7 years and he's served his 20 years already. any help would be appreciated. Thanks [/quote]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes , as per the property division statutes of where you live . The 10 year rule only applies to payments made by the DFAS .
-------------------- Never let your sense of morals get in the way of doing what's right. Isaac Asimov
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beachgirl
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Also need to consider if there is a previous wife who already has claim to the retirement. Either way, her claim would only be for the period of time that they were married AND he was active duty.
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Scarlett435
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I just went through a divorce and a persons military retirement pension is considered a marital assest. Depending on the state in which you last resided in together, depends on what you will get. Most states divide marital assests 50/50, meaning you both get 50% of what ever assets you have. The military pension is then calculated by a formula. Years of marriage divided by years of time served in the military times 50 percent. Example: 154 months of marriage times 50 percent divided by 240 months (time in military) = 32% Be very careful and make sure you get an attorney that is very familiar with Military language. If it's not in writing (on Agreement) Then you'll have to go back to court. Feel free to contact me...I will try to help any way I can.
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PaigeD
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You didn't say if any of that 7 years was before he retired. If not, then it isn't marital property since it was earned prior to your marriage. Not all states award according to a formula, some will decide what they think is fair, awarding 100% if he's been a real jerk or 0% if you have been.
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pdm1960
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This comes from my local JAG office,
Former Spouse: Retirement Pay, Under the Uniformed Services Former Spouses Protection Act (USFSA), state courts MAY treat retirement pay as joint property to be divided between a member and their former spouse. CONSULT YOUR LOCAL STATE LAWS.
How to Calculate Your Share:
The formula that states typically use to determine retirement pay proportions is:
Total Number of Months Married while Spouse was in Military
divided by
Total Number of Months Spouse was in Military
multiplied by 0.5
multiplied by 100
So,
Lets use you as an example and fill in some blanks were we don't have enough information.
Let say your entire 7 years of marriage was all while your spouse was in the military. 7 years equals 84 months.
Now lets say your spouse was in the military for the minimum 20 years for retirement. 20 years equals 240 months.
Lets do the calculation;
84 / 240 = 0.35
0.35 x .5 = 0.175
0.175 x 100 = 17.5%
I think I did the math correctly.
This means that you are entitled to 17.5% of your former spouses retiement pay (Net Pay not Gross Pay) This also excludes any disability pay.
This payment is not automatic. The entitlment has to be written into any divorce settlement. The payment is not always by allotment. The allotment is set up through DFAS usually by the military member (because he has to pay). If he is not paying you do have several options.
Option 1. Involuntary Allotments. Former spouses can request that an allotment be paid from a members paycheck to them The request can only be made if the member has missed two months of payments. To make a request, you'll need to fill out a DD Form 2653, Involuntary Allotment Application, and file it with DFAS, along with copies of the court order. NOTE: This service member can challenge the allotment by showing an inability to pay.
Option 2. Wage Garnishment: Garnishments are similar to allotments except they don't require child support. In other words, a former spouse can ask that wages be garnished for failure to make payments. Here, the request can be made at any time, you don't have to wait until the payment is late to ask. In order to get wages garnished, you'll need to get a court order requiring DFAS to withhold funds. NOTE: The service member can challenge the wage garnishment by showing an inability to pay.
Finally, under USFSA, a former spouse can request that payments be made directly to them from DFAS. You see, just because he has been ordered to pay you he may not do it through DFAS. By getting paid through DFAS you are ensured payment on a monthly basis.
Contact DFAS at 866-859-1845
And in response to more than one spouse. The military member can possibly pay multiple ex-spouses his retirement pay depending on how long he was married to each person while in the military. But the total amount paid out will never exceed 50%. Example; Spouse #1 could receive 20%, spouse #2 could get 10% and spouse #3 could get 15% for the members retirement. It took me 2 times to figure it out :)
Good Luck
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Claudia Joy
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What if your divorce decree says you are entitled to 114 months that is not quite ten years and do you get this money after you remarry? There is no percentage in my decree just months married. What if he does not pay me? I know DFAS wont be giving me my payments so if he does not pay will the court make him pay?
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LovingFather
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USFSPA law explicitly says that for DFAS to help, your decree must put your amount in terms of either a percentage or a dollar figure. If yours puts it in terms of months of pay, you may be out of luck in getting DFAS's help in payments.
If you didn't meet the 10 year rule, then DFAS won't help either.
If your ex has been ordered to pay and is not, I'd say you're in the same boat as any other spouse who is not being paid according to the court order. At the least your ex is in contempt of a court order. Depending on your state, they my have some garnishment options. You should certainly be able to request a hearing on a contempt charge and other means to get enforcement of the obligation.
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LovingFather
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Arizona's unofficial -- but generally followed, particularly in Maricopa County -- guidelines for alimony is:
1.5 x years married x difference in income
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