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Re: COLLEGE, when does this end? [Re: Sarah1014]
      #132539 - 09/17/07 06:00 AM (64.81.150.197)
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Can you believe 1/3 i more money then he will be contributing to our family then if we were staying here and he paid for college?
The turmoil is what has us thinking about this so hard.

Right now I could not care less about this kid. I did till about a ago when everything changed.
This kid came to my house and started verbally abusing my kids especially my oldest. Started problem w/my husband and I all over a cell we decided to take away bc of misuse.
It was 1030pm one night and my oldest was pulled out of bed screaming etc. Since then things hve been totally different. We did not have contact for about 11months. I have yet to get an apology much less my husband or children. However when it was the night before graduation and they needed something we did get a phone call and I was out till 10pm trying to tie everything together!!!!
LEt me also stress that this kid has such hate for our oldest, will yell and completely show favoritism toward the other kids.
Why bc oldest ruined chances of being an only child (so said) After we had kids everyone started having kids.
This child called once a few months ago to ask our child to the movies reluctant we said ok, we are still waiting. Never came, called etc. It was a way of hurtin our child, luckily we never told ours.

Our child looked at the calander on the kids bday. Said today is so bday. I said yes, do we have to call? I said well do u want to? Our child said no, not really. We call for everyones bday.

One last thing. We always go out for our kids bday. This kid found out and said well I want to go (ALWAYS LOOKING FOR A FREE NICE MEAL) we said ok, we had reservations. One hour later kid shows up, mind you we got a phone call at 10minutes late 30 minutes late saying I almost there. Then we needed to make a stop bc forgot something. We missed our reservation!!!!!!!!!! HAd to go to a burger joint and OUR kids fell asleep at the table. Our kids love it when the server comes singing happy bday never got that!!! o, by the way this was after we had to origionally change our reservation to fit time schedule.
Fair? Should I care after the way my family has been treated? Should I give up to hand over?
I know I sound like the wicked step parent, but I know I have given up more then teh biological parents especially mom. I have been made to feel horrible and have things blown up in my face. Even my mother-in-law has said I thank you since no one else has for being so good to the child.
My kindness has to stop, at some point. It might be here!!!


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Re: COLLEGE, when does this end? [Re: 1227]
      #132561 - 09/17/07 08:55 AM (24.14.185.5)
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To be perfectly honest, I don't think this kid is going to cut it in college. It sounds like another pipedream of her mother's to stick it to you. Don't do anything rash. Wait it out. Things have a way of leveling.

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Re: COLLEGE, when does this end? [Re: Sarah1014]
      #132806 - 09/17/07 05:51 PM (64.81.150.197)
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thanks, I just hope the courts see that.

As for your son, I think where we failed (primarily mom and dad) was both having equal responsibility. It was always he needs to or she needs to making things difficult. I will be honest I was the MIDDLE man constantly and as an adult it drove me crazy I can only imagine as a kid. The one thing my husband and I have said is that we will never be like that. I know a lot easier said then done.
I have always said I do not need support if he wants to help great, it so different when you want to rather then you have to. However, I know there are times and others that need that support payment. If it were me I would have documention and copy receipts to show the paying parent where the mney is going so they feel equal and that they are not paying as a form of punishment.
I would also do email to communicate civilly. This is what is going on what role do you want to play? Child got a 100% on such test just for your FYI, so that he can then call and congratulate the child. The kid would then know that both parents are proud.

I wish would know the performace for this child in school, NOT a clue. I know my husband and I could have been a valuable resource, we have been there and mom/stepdad has not.
I could have helped out to get grants etc. My company offers them!!! I could help out in making the most out of the college experience. My cousin last night was talking to me how is looking at different schools (SR yr right now). He is looking at U of I and other great schools, he has asked for me to help by visiting schools with him. His mom will go also. Just as someone who has done it knows ways to get the money to do it. I seriously was able to get so many grants that my out of pocket was minimal and I never had any LOANS!!!!

If I did take a loan, I would pay it off before taking more money. Never paid interest.

Kids need to research and find money that is available to them.


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Re: COLLEGE, when does this end? [Re: MakeItRight]
      #136647 - 09/24/07 05:58 PM (64.81.150.197)
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Does anyone know if mom has the right to file in Illinois after the child turned 18? I thought kids is an adult?

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Re: COLLEGE, when does this end? [Re: 1227]
      #136747 - 09/24/07 09:27 PM (71.221.46.191)
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The right to file for what? Whoever has custody before age 18, retains everything that goes with that into later years. For example, I read a case in MA, where CS goes until 24 if the child is in college, where the child moved in with the NCP as soon as they turned 18. They could not get CS from the "old" CP, as there can't be a custody change after age 18. The child was emancipated, and CS stopped. Then, after a couple years, the child moved back in with the "old" CP, they petitioned for CS, and it was reinstated, as the child was unemancipated.

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Re: COLLEGE, when does this end? [Re: Samsung]
      #136871 - 09/25/07 05:15 AM (64.81.150.197)
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Sorry should have been clear. Child is 18, mom wants to sue for college education. Kid graduated from H.s. already. This is in Illinois.

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Re: COLLEGE, when does this end? [Re: 1227]
      #136912 - 09/25/07 08:51 AM (71.221.46.191)
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Il is one of those states, where the parents are forced to pay. Expect she will be successful. At the same time, financial aid is dependent on the CP's household income. Make sure it is stated that all grants and scholarships are applied first, and that an original billing from the school be provided to you. From case I've read, this area is ripe for double dipping.

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Re: COLLEGE, when does this end? [Re: 1227]
      #136980 - 09/25/07 12:42 PM (68.110.76.139)
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Sorry, I can't get past the fact that you seem intent on divorce if this financial issue odesn't work out ofr you. Do you love your husband that little? Do your kids' emotional states not mean anything to you? Is it all about money?

And the 18 year old being jealous of your oldest because the oldest made it impossible for her to be an only child? That makes no sense. It has to be some crazy person speculating or putting this nonsense into her her head... because she had a fine relationship with the kid till a year ago! Here's the thing, teens get bugs up their A$$es and get stupid from time to time. They get snotty & uppity & greedy & they want to control everyone. They think they're adults & want all the priveleges of an adult while taking on none of the responsibilities. They GRAB for the priveleges, going out & partying or whatever, at times, and then get all surprised when the consequences hit them in the face. College is one of those things. If someone gave her the idea that she didn't have to talk to you about it, but could still get funding from you for it, then that person was plain wrong. But if your husband walks into court without that iin his head, but instead with this threat hanging over him that his WIFE might take his three children and LEAVE him over this, then he's goign to show more intensity on this issue in court than it deserves and the judge might very well think he's being excessive and unreasonable (without the jduge knowing that it's because you are being unreasonable) and the jduge might go ahead & stretch teh law to fit this situation and GIVE the kid $$. It's not right, but your attitude is not fixing it.

Look, if the kid didn't speak to you for a whole year, then you both needed to do something about this well before now. She needed frequent visitation enforced, to come and if she was goign to be snotty & miserable, to sit in her room & mope if you didn't cowtow to her demands. And to come out & join the family again when she got over her teenaged mood. She needed to be disciplined for her snottiness & mean behavior towards her younger sibling, rather than have you jump in & get snotty back at her. The idea that you could all just allow her to pull away for a whole year, not do a thing about it other than wait till she's 18 and file to terminate the child support... well, it did this child a disservice & allowed her to enter adulthood with some very wrong ideas about how to handle her adult responsibilities... the decision about how to go about getting financing for college being just ONE of those wrong ideas.

Hopefully the judge will make the right decision in your husband & stepdaughter's case, but the more troublesome issue is if your own marriage is so troubled that this might break it up, you've got a whole lot more work, more therapy (sorry, it means spending more money on something that's not YOU or YOUR kids.. but rather your husband)... you've got a lot of work to go through to get over this. The idea that you coudl use the "d" word as some kind of threat involving money... it's not very well-thought-out and does not bode well for your marriage. Your husband must be frantic. And like I already said, the panic over whether or not you're going to leave him & strip the kids away from him as a result of this little hearing over whether or not he has to contribute a DIME to his oldest child's college... it's going to infect his ability to handle the case involving the college funding and make it more likely that he'll lose.

PLEASE think through the whole thing & recognize that thinking that divorce is a smart way to save money for yourself ... recognize that unless your husband is an unemployed gambler, that divorce is NOT a money-saving strategy.


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Re: COLLEGE, when does this end? [Re: Sarah1014]
      #156135 - 11/19/07 09:29 PM (64.81.150.197)
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We settled and guess what? Kid dropped out of school. Just found out.
We ended up agreeing to pay half of schooling. Now kid drops out!!! WTF?
HMMMMM nothing like wasting money that does not belong to you ha?!!! At least it is now and not yrs dn the road.


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