jbar
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[quote]Do us both a favor, and at least keep a valid passport and a few thousand (Euros) in gold available at all times. "Bullion" jewelry is safer than coins, for example, as it can be conveniently worn normally. Sell it only at the most reputable local dealer and expect to pay an assay charge. Diamonds can be molded into shoe heels and currency can be folded and laminated into the full soles.
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Plan on running away with him JBar?
You'd be there right next to all the Scott Petersons in this world who murder their wives & try to hide out before making a run for it...I hope this poster, nor anyone else here, doesn't take your suggestion seriosly. Its clearly a mental disease/disorder thats clouding YOUR judgement & morals
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Any first-year law student knows that there are two kinds of "crime": (1) behaviour prohibited by "objective" law, such as that of Scott Peterson, et al., and (2) that condemned by "subjective" law such as acts or behaviour which are legal in one jurisdiction and not in another, those which may or may not be crimes depending on the skillfulnes of the arguments of attorneys, that proscribed by purely arbitrary statute and case rulings, the rationale for which cannot be clearly explained (such as the age of majority in "statutory rape" cases), etc. The financial rape of men, in divorce, is a perfect example of the application of subjective law. There are many examples of such previously existing, subjective and unjust law in this country, which have been overuled by Supreme Court decisions, such as segregation, gender discrimination, the California law which provided that the income of the seperated female party to a marriage was separate property but the man's income remained community property, etc., etc.
When someone is the victim of such law--which has NOT YET been properly stricken down by the courts--such as the clear violation of the 5th and 14th amendments to the U.S. Constitution, which the arbitrary confiscation of the man's property in a divorce always consists of, the victim ALWAYS has the right--ney, the responsibility--to engage in whatever CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE is necessary to effectively reject and negate the law or laws involved.
"What will I lose" entered into NO CONTRACT to take care of his wife forever, just because he may have been enfatuated with her enough at some point in time to have married her. And the correct response to his user name is, "He can lose everything, including his castle!" Or he can reject the laws which would have this result, cast the demons who control and implement the whole anti-male system of marriage and divorce in this country out of his life, and make the same sacrifice that other fighters for justice have made in the past, and whom are now viewed as civil rights heroes and visionaries!
As far as the reason that I have not yet followed my own advice, and left the country, the answer is that I have, for the time being, taken other steps to protect myself. Since no strategy, in protecting yourself from victimization is 100% reliable, I know that I may nonetheless someday meet "What will I lose" somewhere overseas, along with thousands of other American men who were victims of divorce law, and who were--like Jews escaping from Germany in the '30's--given no choice but to become expatriots.
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mistake#2
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[quote]Do us both a favor, and at least keep a valid passport and a few thousand (Euros) in gold available at all times. "Bullion" jewelry is safer than coins, for example, as it can be conveniently worn normally. Sell it only at the most reputable local dealer and expect to pay an assay charge. Diamonds can be molded into shoe heels and currency can be folded and laminated into the full soles.
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Plan on running away with him JBar?
...I hope this poster, nor anyone else here, doesn't take your suggestion seriosly. Its clearly a mental disease/disorder thats clouding YOUR judgement & morals
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Any first-year law student knows that there are two kinds of "crime": (1) behaviour prohibited by "objective" law, such as that of Scott Peterson, et al., and (2) that condemned by "subjective" law such as acts or behaviour which are legal in one jurisdiction and not in another,
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***Anyone with half a brain would realize your "thinking" is skewed and should be able to spell infatuated correctly as well. Maybe you should have taken some spelling lessons along with your "law" degree.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++I know that I may nonetheless someday meet "What will I lose" somewhere overseas, along with thousands of other American men who were victims of divorce law, and who were--like Jews escaping from Germany in the '30's--given no choice but to become expatriots. [/quote]
**So you do hope to run away with WWIL...now we know the true reason why JBAR's marriage hasn't worked (well besides the obvious that he's mental) he's come out of the closet.
Comparing yourself now with the jews...I guess us women are the nazi's.
Keeping typing JBAR, the more you type the more ridiculous you appear.
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boothby171
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My goodness!
jbar has invoked Godwin's Law, and we just got to page 2.
In accordance with Godwin's Law, this thread is now closed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
"...for example, there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically "lost" whatever debate was in progress. This principle is itself frequently referred to as Godwin's Law."
Nice work, jbar.
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My goal: Once a day, make someone laugh so hard that their soda comes out their nose
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jbar
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Mistake, you must be pulling my leg. Surely you don't really MEAN the moronic, preposterous, infantile statements you made. I'm not going to accept your desperate criticism of my spelling, as serious, presented as it is within a complete vacuum of any real, meaningful thought and in an informal, casual venue like this.
Your allusion to my being homosexual reminds me of the kind of pathetic stupidity that used to be heard on certain Saturday night TV programming written by uneducated, doped up, drunk hacks who only wanted to keep writing long enough to get that next fat paycheck so they could stuff it up their noses. If you really have that many kids, I hope that you will try to exercise a little more thought, maturity and responsibility in your dealings with them than you have with me and the other readers of this forum.
Boothby, I take your ridiculous comments in the jovial manner in which they are intended. It's amazing, the way that on the internet, if you search long enough you can find a "law" to validate even the very most vacuous theorys and "thought". This entry really helps us to understand the utterly NON-AUTHORITATIVE nature of "Wikipedia" and the way in which it too often, through improper use of English, conveys the false impression that pure apochrypha, "belief", tradition, myth and legend are somehow not only truth, but a "law"! I will let the membership determine if this thread is now "closed", and the totally uncredentialed fool who wrote that Wikipedia entry--along with Godwin himself--can go to blazes!
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What will I lose
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[quote]Let's see... the house is a trash heap full of clutter that is your own family's heirlooms, and has so much mold that it's not healthy to even spend the night? if she claims it shoudl be sold and split, remind her that her mother even says that the house is a health hazard. If you put it on the market and get even one evaluation that it has mold, you might be forced to vacate and put 10s of thousands into cleanup before selling at a loss.
I wish you'd sucked up to Mom a bit more, but at least Mom Did get to see the way her daughte ris so dependent and even mom doesn't want to take care of her, moving the wheelchair around is too much of a bother, etc. I'll bet she had a few little harsh talks with daughter while you weren't around or else she'd not believe she'd solved the 2 patch issue.
You maybe want to consider renting a room to your stbx for the price of what your spousal maintenance could be, and that way you could get the ball rolling on teh 2 year uncontested divorce timeline while letting her work on getting out on her own timeline. [/quote]
so much has happened..which is why i havent been on here. I will try to be brief but wont succeed.
While it wasnt part of my master plan, you are right that i would take pleasure in her own mom saying the place is unhealthy because it may get her out of here sooner. I hadnt though about forced vacating but hope doesnt come to that. At least it would kill my value though (half teasing statement). And yes i cant wait to tell wife 95% of the clutter is mine so she can rent a tiny uhaul to take her stuff out. Suck up to mom...HA you must know me by now. I dont do that especially to someone i dont like. I'd rather be true to myself and deal with the fallout and i did. I just wish i would have said more to be honest. LIke how her one day with wheelchair killed her...DUH i do that every time we go out. Also last night my wife got really sick (i was really sick sunday) so i said we gotta go to the ER. Well get this. Her mom wasnt PLANNING to go with us. I said you ARE going with us arent you? Then she said wasnt planning but will.
so what kind of mom preaches that her SIL is doing so crappy a job but they wont even call for an ambulance (i didnt mind) nor want to even go WITH her own child to the ER? And all night while wife was sick she came into the bedroom and said she was worried about her. but then after a while said 'honey, i'm falling asleep out there and may not hear you so hopefully WWIL will take care of you'
so she had to get her digs in even then. Plus i know my wife does NOT like to be comforted while puking,she likes to be alone but her mom kept going in the bathroom and i know my wife hated it but never said a thing. And get this, i assumed her mom would stay the rest of the week. Fine the woman is ill and it's great her mom will be there to take care of her. So i said this mornign i'm going to work but call on cell if need me. then wife told me her mom IS still going home today as planned. Talk about floored! holy crap. her girl gets out of the ER and is puking 4 hours straight and her mom is leaving her???? What the heck is that? her excuse was , and this is an honest quote "i want to make it home before i get the bug, which will probably hit tomorrow"
well my belief is the fact the mom is constantly picking out her dentures, licking them, putting her hand down her pants doing who knows what, and never washing her hands in the bathroom all contributed to her infecting our house. But i cant prove it. I'm very resistant to most everything and never get sick. So for wife and me to be sick has almost never happened. The dr said food poisoning but wrote down gastroenteritis (or whatever) and so could be flu i guess. But i went entire week without eating any food made by her mom but i guess all the other surfaces we touched were bad now that i think about it. So ill go home at lunch and take care of my wife since her mom wont. How terrible a mother after all that preachy. though if she got sick too it would be bad for me so its best she is gone
while i was literally in bed all sunday i did hear my wife crying out there and when i asked her what was wrong she said her pain...and other things..but never told me what..no doubt her mom peed her off.
now i have to let my wife heal a bit then question her about all her mom told her and hope she tells me stuff like if she saw an atty etc. Of course ill point out this mother who 'has her best interest' at heart is the same mom that will NOT take her daughter in even to collect her SSD money! How sad is that.
I also thought about telling wife about everything her mom said to me, including that she cant wait for the marriage to be dissolved. We know that 99.9% chance i was getting D but her mom sure made that 100%. No way in haydes would i drive 4 hours out there under any circumstance except to dump my wife off at her house for good. Not dealing with her family will make this worth the price alone. Oh and her mom tried to deflect taht she had anything to do with wife being sick. "i ate 1/2 the burger she did, it must have been from the sandwich shop we all ate from last week"
Um NO...if you eat bad food you get sick right away not FIVE days afterwards! She's all about not blaming herself, pointing the fingers at others..all while carrying around all those disgusting germs on her unwashed hands. NO wonder the woman burps at least every 5 minutes no lie...its disgusting and its because she is eating her own filth but she doesnt even realize it!
Ok that was brief right? told you i couldntn do it. now to get home and clorox the entire house and get back to my smoke filled room since my wife wont smoke in the other room for me and her mom will take home her 'special' air filter.
sniffffff
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What will I lose
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great news...her mom couldnt wait to get out of here...she was bored stiff...didnt wanna stay another day (forced my wife to watch 8 HOURS of hells kitchen repeats LIVE the other day without tivo lol)....she would not even stay to nurse her kid back to health...just is uncomfortable here...and get this... i just found out that she did NOT know how to turn on the light to get up to her bedroom. I'm not kidding when i say there are FIVE different lightswitches that turn those lights on. So for over a week she found her way up/down in the dark. WHY not ask her own kid how to do it? And she's been coming here over a decade..geez um. Also she would call out home to find out what the weather.. ..called 2 people yesterday when she could have used her OWN daughters private laptop i got for her last year?
when i got home today, i took off 1/2 day to take care of my sick wife like a good husband, i turned around and left to get her meds and get her her fav things at the store for her aching belly...then her mom left when i was out..thankfully. even my wife agreed that i should disinfect every handle, lightswitch, knob, wash every bedlinen, kitchen linen, dish, toss out all the food she touched....basically getting rid of the germ.
so all are happy now that she is gone and hopefully she wont keep her promise to return in a few weeks
and get this, her mom put women in crisis number on the fridge...big rolleyes...my wife said she isnt one now but doesnt wanna become one..i have no doubt this was as a result of me keeping the temp lower to save money and her mom was so cold..she said she was gonna research if it was legal for me to keep the temp that low...UM i have a heating pad she sits on all day plus no less than 3 blankets and 5 comforters in the house.
i should also note our cat wouldnt eat treats that her mom touched..HA good boy
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gigi
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You've got Tivo? That wasn't on the list of expenses... You've got to get rid of that.
Why in the world are you getting things in the house, making a commitment to ongoing payments for things, that allow your mentally disabled wife to sit around and let her mind vegetate in relative comfort? Maybe without Tivo she wouldn't be quite so comfortable.
And when you get rid of the Tivo payments, you can put that extra into heating. The heating pad is not good for her, she sits on it and is cold and turns it way up and it burns her. Get rid of the cable and internet and Tivo... those things are not necessities. NO more cigarettes, they're vaso-constrictors that cause the limbs to be colder than they should. And MORE HEAT.
When I forget to turn up the heat in my office in th emorning, I start to become less and less effective, all I want is to curl up in bed with a blanket, or take a long hot bath, it's' some kidn of hibernation thing I think... and the way you've been talking about your wife, she could very well be going through this. Truly, being too cold could exacerbate any of the laziness or other conditions you've been talking about. Stop buying the cigs, turn off the cable, whatever it takes... but turn UP the heat.
I'm not saying it'll be a magic solution to all the problems, but over time it could make her more willing to get up and about, and reverse the downward spiral into total laziness that she's been experiencing.
My parents are elderly and moved recently. When my husband & I visited, they were spending most days in the bedroom, huddled under the covers, and not even wanting to come out for meals. We disoveredy what the problem was. THey were used to living in another climate so they didn't even realize how badly the cold was going to affect them, and they remembered how in their younger adulthood they lived in a colder climate and had set the thermostats to 68. Well, that was fine when they were younger and active and had an active household full of children, but when they were older and not eating as much and not moving as much, 68 is COOOOLLLLD, and all you want to do is huddle under the covers. And when you're sick a little in the first place, that's NOT a good thing to encourage. You've GOT to encourage tossing off the covers & getting up to move around a little. Raising the thermostat in hte winter can help that.
Good that things are better now that the MIL is gone, but please consider reorganizing your mindset just a little. If you stop doing the things that she will claim are hurting her (keeping the house cold), then you will have a MUCH easier time with the divorce.
Look, when I was getting divorced, there were things I had to do also that were not what I wnated to do once I made the decision. I HAD it with the ex and wanted to move on... but I had to hold my breath, suck in my gut, cut back for a while and DEAL with it. THe payoff was that it happened relatively painlessly and with no ongoing horrible trouble.
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mistake#2
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[quote]Mistake, you must be pulling my leg. Surely you don't really MEAN the moronic, preposterous, infantile statements you made. I'm not going to accept your desperate criticism of my spelling, as serious, presented as it is within a complete vacuum of any real, meaningful thought and in an informal, casual venue like this.
**As much as you meant your idiotic ramblings...hahahaha, meaningful thought? I didn't know you actually had any of that. James Bond...oh I mean JBAR.
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What will I lose
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[quote]Why in the world are you getting things in the house, making a commitment to ongoing payments for things,
And MORE HEAT.
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ok i wrote a lot...remind me what i'm 'getting in the house'
and making ongoing pymts for things?
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new subject: i just found out we are on the hook for over 1600 bucks. Long story short, someone elses bank account was debited instead of ours and we owe the debt for sure but they hinted my offer of 75 a month wont be enough. This will put a huge monkey wrench in any plans.
i know youll probably say split the bill with her but i dont think she will go for it. I know, i know..see an atty. :)
the more heat, jacking up the 350 a month does sound insane and until her mom complained, she didnt even notice it wsa turned down a month ago.
she does have lividity on her back since her mom did take her to the DR friday. At least im not on the hook for that huge bruise.
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gigi
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The ongoing payments you make for Tivo service ... not to mention Cable TV & internet service. It's too much. Why are you buying a laptop for a woman who needs to have incentive to get up & stop acting bedridden?
What is your thermostat set to? Of course she might not notice the temp set back. I don't even realize it's set back till I'm shivering & curled up under a blanket and my mind starts warming up (from the blanket) and I think... gee, maybe I should check the thermostat... Temperature is not something that's always noticeable by the person suffering from it. But if she's been sitting on a heating pad to the point where she's burning herself, it would seem that maybe she is feeling too cold in general.
You may think the fuel bill is too high, but if THIS is the thing that's going to make it possible for her to get up & about & stop whining, stop using the heating pad so much that she burns herself, etc. Then the fuel is not turned up enough. I'd suggest to try a space heater but it seems that the wife is in such a bad situation at this point that she might fall asleep and let the blanket fall onto it.
Look, the temperature thing has nothing to do with whether or not your bills are too high. if your bills for fuel are too high, it's because your insulation is bad or your furnace is inefficient. If she's sitting home all day during the day with things too cold to come out from under the covers during the winter, too hot to move during the summer, she'll just KEEP sitting, more and more & more.
What is the $1600 bill that you're worried about and why don't you think she's going to pay for it? it's all joint bills. Either the two of you are married or you're not, and if you ARE, then you have to pay this stuff together.
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