siobhan
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I'm still in the planning stage, but want to be out within two months at most. But I'm really freaked out about telling him I'm leaving. He fired our last marriage counselor (who was an ally of his anyway, he liked to say "let's not use the words "physical abuse" because it set my husband off so bad). He was not a big help.
The physical abuse really only happened twice. But that was enough. The emotional/verbal has been going on for years. We have a deeply pathological thing going on here. The more I break free, the angrier he's getting. How am I going to tell him it's over? Right now I'm basically "making nice" but not letting him walk all over me anymore and he's not too happy.
I am definately scared of what will happen. Should I pack up and call him? Last week he said something really weird about what would happen to the dogs if I left, how he might have to ship them off to California to his sister's. These are 10 yr. old dogs. And he said the cat would be put to sleep. I can't stay to save the pets, but I can see what he's trying to do here.
Even though it's a ways off, I've already begun losing sleep over this (he sleeps on the couch -- he's "punishing" me. Okay by me.)
Help! What did y'all do?
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boothby171
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Siobhan,
I will have to say I have no experience to call on to help you, but I think you should probably contact a woman's shelter, or safe-house, to complete your plans. They will also help you come to terms with his continued attempts at manipulation.
Best of luck.
-------------------- --Boothby
My goal: Once a day, make someone laugh so hard that their soda comes out their nose
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gigi
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Boothby is right. A local domestic violence shelter or advocate (look at a police station or prosecutor's office) might be able to point you in the right direction.
What you are looking for is someone to help you with what's called a "safety plan". This will include things like where the kids go (pets if you have no kids and are worried about the animals), where YOU will go, how to get there, how you will afford it, what stuff you will take, and whether you'll need or get an order of protection, whether you'll ahve him served before you leave or whether you tell him htat you're going to have him served before you leave. Also, they will probably help you figure out where to get and keep copies of important documents and papers to prove what you own or what you should have a right ot have a share of... like any 401Ks or IRAs or credit cards. The house and cars are pretty easy to get documents on (they'rey public record) but getting proof of retirement accounts requires that you know they exist and what financial institutions they are in... and the more you know, about account numbers & etc., the better. You'll also want your passport, birth certificate, etc., to be in a safe place.
And for your own peace of mind, you might like a plan to remove your own personal mementos and heirlooms so that they're not part of a bonfire on the day you leave.
A safety plan might also include getting a free cellphone tuned into the 9-1-1 system (and ONLY the 9-1-1 system) just in case... especially if he's the type of man who has expressed his anger by cutting your communications...
Don't feel embarassed or shy about going forward with asking for professional help about this. Better safe than sorry. There does not have to be current physical abuse for it to be dangerous. My husband's ex wife did not have to continue to hit him in the last few years of the marriage. She had control over him and so she knew how to stick it to him so that he would not defy her (until the day he walked out). She had accused and abused him for years until he acquiesced to every demand, and because they have kids, they have to remain in touch, and when you see the two of them in the same room together, you can see remnants of it. My husband refused to call himself abused, though he could see that no human should ever be treated the way this woman treated him. and he pooh-poohed that the physical abuse he suffered at her hands was meaningful, because he's a man and she's a small woman and any hitting or biting was ineffectual... he's a strong man with character and would never lift a finger against a woman, so the idea of retaliating was ridiculous to him. he still cannot see himself as a victim even though she would jump on him from behind, hit, bite, slap. And the non-physical stuff was worse, demeaning, demoralizing, dehumanizing him. Calling him a spineless worm, telling the kids that he was a servant, not a man, not a father, he was there to cook and clean for them, provide her with money to have fun with them with, and to do as she told, but otherwise they needn't pay attention to him. They didn't listen to her, but the fact that she said it was abusive.
And your husband is abusive to be implying that horrible things will happen to your beloved pets if you leave. He no longer has to hit or slap or push or wahtever other things he did to you... he has you in control, he doesn't need to actually do anything any longer.
You do not need to actually feel present danger in order to make it worth goign to a professional about this.
Heck, even if you're exaggerating and he's right and you're crazy and he's not a danger, what harm could it do to find a way out that makes you feel safe? Go... call the local shelter adn ask for help in making a safety plan for your separation.
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taryn
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have an emergency number in your cell phone under a fake name, keep your keys by your bed when you sleep or in your car under the mat, and like gigi suggested get the good stuff somewhere safe even if it's in a crawl space you go back to get latter.
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OutOfControl
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The court orders are not worth the paper they are printed on. My husband came by the house 3 times with the police in tow. They never stopped him or took him away. They even allowed his to hug our son. He is extremely violent and has a huge drug problem! I know what you mean about "anger" I would not tell him anything, make "nice" as long as possible. If you are going to remain in the same are (town, city, state) get a storage unit and start moving small things that won't be noticed right away. Just the things you could not live without. Save your money in cash, when you go to the store pull 40 - 80 cash out in addition to the food/supplies that you buy to run the house. Keep this cash in a safe place or with a trusted friend. Once the ish hits the fan all bets are off and it will set off a chain of reaction and will put you into a panic attack. See your doctor and notate the times he makes statements or hurts you. Take pictures and take down notes. These things will help you in court. MOST OF ALL Protect yourself, when it really matters you will be surprised how many people just don't want to get involved. Plan everything you can down to the last minute....keep keys, meds, purse in a safe place at night. Try and think of everything that could go wrong and plan for it.
Sorry to hear you are going through this. :(
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sunshine
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A lot of very good advice..I did the same..even the pictures..but that all is up to the judge and mine got away with everything and the States attorney tried him..just make sure you have enough to get by for atleast a few months..go to a shelter for the abused..that for sure is safe..never put it the money in an account or a safe deposit box..they can be froze by the courts.
In fact go to the shelter and tell them what is happeneing..they can help you even more that way..and no one will be the wiser..I always had a bag..it was gym bag..so he didn't suspect anything..took it with me everyday to the gym..and just in case...things escualted..don't take a chance with an abuser..they can snap just like that..they get worse with time..no way to live for anyone..it is hard to do the fear is overwhelming..but alot of us have done it and have never looked back..you have alot of backing here..
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tookway2much
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Wait until he is gone, and when he comes back he will figure it out when no one answers when he calls your name.
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sparemethedrama
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I don't have any answers, we are in the same boat. My husband is "bipolar" and uses threats of suicide. He won't let me work outside the home but won't insure my future if something were to happen to him (I asked that we draw up our wills) and he became upset. I am 44 haven't worked for 12 years (however I bust my butt working for he and his brother's family owned business) which he says I have no rights to. So I quit doing all the paperwork since last month. My name is on some of the company debts. Most of the assets are in his brother's name! He totally trusts him and I think he is screwing my husband over in a major way. Instead of dealing with the problem he sticks his head in the sand and goes into depression, staying in bed for days! We have been married for 19 yrs. He has cheated on me, I don't know how many times but I think it has been more than he is admitting to (bipolar was to blame - how convenient) He has no memory of the horrible things he has said and done to me in the past (bipolar - how convenient) He is unpredictable and I am afraid to tell him I am sooooo done! He has no loyalty to me or our 14 yr old son, but he is loyal to his alcoholic brother who seems to have some type of control over him. He is a wimp to everyone else except me-I can't figure it out. I always thought if I worked hard and was honest and faithful things would be good, boy was I sadly mistaken!
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