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Re: New Family Member! [Re: Cathie]
      #189970 - 03/26/08 07:46 PM (66.169.163.142)
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WolRon gets his fair share of criticism for being abrupt, whether he's right or wrong. And without detailed knowledge of specific timelines and players, I happened to agree with him.

Infidelity, in whatever form it comes, however innocently it starts or manifests itself, is still infidelity. You'll see people talk about emotional vs. physical affairs. You will see people discuss how they did X, but it wasn't nearly as horrible or warranting of their spouse running into the arms of another.

The debate will rage on until the end of time for no other reason than it is part of the process to place blame. Right now, you blame the STBX. At some point, you will find that you blame yourself. You may eventually settle in reality - it takes two.

I don't think the hurt has to do with the OW. I think the hurt has to do with the STBX telling you he wanted to work it out, and then acting differently. And to THAT, I can completely relate. I have seen so much lip service from my STBX that wasn't backed up with actions that after years of trying, I just gave up.

If you're familiar with the five stages of grief - denial, bargaining, anger, depression, and/or acceptance - you will experience one at a time, and perhaps cycle back through others until you reach acceptance of how things got to where they are today - and that WILL include accepting your contribution as well. It's NOT fun, it's NOT easy, and unfortunately none of the stages are avoidable or have a shortcut to get through them other than to spend a few hours in the therapist's chair to have the assistance of guiding you through such an awful time.

Feel what you need to feel. But realize when you see a post that may SEEM quite cold, there is a message there that perhaps you aren't ready to hear due to where you are in the greiving process.

And realize this being a public forum, we are NOT therapists, and putting your stuff out there puts you in a position for a response that you don't necessarily like or want to hear, and is OFTEN grounded in our own pain and hurt.

Take what you need to take today, and leave the rest behind - at least for NOW.

Many of us have gone back and seen our own progression through the process, either through what we post here, or what we share elsewhere (ie. blogging on another site), and over a period of time can SEE the growth, acceptance and healing that time will eventually bring to you.

Some time from now, Cathie, if you have a desire to rid yourself of the pain and move on with your life, you'll look back at this post and say "boy, did I have but one nerve ending that particular day and let the WolRon's, faith4two's, and STBX get on it!"

We're really NOT that important in the grand scheme... ;)


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Re: New Family Member! [Re: faith4two]
      #189973 - 03/26/08 07:54 PM (72.221.70.197)
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ty faith...this is just so hard...i feel so betrayed... we were working things out, living together, going to marriage counseling, and being a family again...and OW knew this and stayed away for a few weeks...but somehow changed her mind and started showing up everywhere we were deliberately, making sure stbx saw her and she would try talking to him... then she started texting him again, using someone else's cell so i wouldn't know, and asking him to come over her house, and he did...and i caught him leaving there with a big smile on his face... and that's when my world crashed immensely...*cries again for millionth time today*

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Re: New Family Member! [Re: Cathie]
      #190083 - 03/27/08 02:22 AM (66.242.81.47)
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"the OW texting him was NOT ok when we were back together and working things out...i quit the talking online way before that!!! i completely devoted myself to my husband and our marriage...and he did the same for me...until the OW started coming around where we were purposely...and then started texting him AGAIN...i didn't do anything to deserve that!!!! why are you being so cold?"

Because you are trying to make me feel sorry for YOU, when by rights I should also feel sorry for your husband. To ask me of one but not the other is unfair to him.

"the OW texting him was NOT ok when we were back together and working things out..."

How is this any different than you 'texting' people online while you WERE together?

"until the OW started coming around where we were purposely...and then started texting him AGAIN..."

And if he didn't put a stop to it, then that is HIS fault, not hers, for interfering with the two of you working things out. Forget about the OW. She is a pawn. The real person you have to 'fight' is your own husband.

"i didn't do anything to deserve that!!!!"

You let him go once already. NOW it bothers you?


I wish you the best but it doesn't sound good for you. He doesn't seem interested anymore and you've shown that you've lost interest at times as well.

It's good that you want to work it out, but don't blame it all on him. That's just not the truth. Tell him you've screwed up like he has and that you both have to look at how it affects your kids.

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Re: New Family Member! [Re: Cathie]
      #190098 - 03/27/08 08:33 AM (71.214.149.56)
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Your husband is having a sexual affair. You had an emotional affair. Both are detremental to a marriage. Regardless, it's clear he isn't interested in working on the marriage anymore. It's time to move on.

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Re: New Family Member! [Re: WolRon]
      #191164 - 03/29/08 10:11 AM (72.221.70.197)
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you're just not getting it...funny though...our MC got it...our friends got it...our pastors got it...i have already admitted my faults, and tried...it would never have happened if he was there for me instead of always going out and drinking and using drugs...i don't want your sympathy...was just telling my story...and right from the very first post i had already stated what i had done at first...and yes..i do blame both...him and OW...is it possible that you are just a bitter man and one-sided?

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Re: New Family Member! [Re: Cathie]
      #192604 - 04/01/08 04:31 PM (71.100.165.23)
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Welcome to our family forum.

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