stoltz
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stoltz
You seem to be very narrow minded when it comes to women and their abilities, both in the world of commerce and romance.
Perhaps to have been misplaced in a time warp, seems you may fit better in the 40's or 50's era. JMO
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malone
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[quote]As I alluded to earlier in this thread, men want to "make love" to a woman - not a female with increased masculine characteristics. [/quote]
You mentioned firemen as the kind of men with traditional male roles. Women LOVE firemen. Firemen look like real traditional men too. Big axes. Fire hoses. Big engines. Uniforms. Women LOVE all that stuff. :)
Trouble is, not all men look like firemen types or want to be firemen types. Lots of men want to live and breathe in the world of commerce and actually prefer a woman who understands their world too. Or better still, a woman who works in their world in a similar role and not just as the little lady who makes their tea. Unless of course, they're easily threatened types.
A woman's ability to provide intellectual stimulation that lasts throughout the marriage is considered to be of greater importance than their cake-baking skills, (although most women have cake-baking skills anyway).
And then there's that question I asked which you didn't really answer properly. There are scores of women here on this forum doing the providing because their ex-traditional role men don't want to/refuse to do the providng.
So applying your theory on this thread, what does that make the women forced to do the providing to make sure their kids grow up okay and with a roof over their head? Some kind of half-man not interested in sex who no man would ever look at?
From what I can tell, those women are having no problem. They're dating or remarrying. And the men dating or marrying them have no problem with them having to do a "traditional male role" either.
Just you.
Edited by malone (05/13/08 03:29 PM)
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stoltz
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From what I can tell, those women are having no problem. They're dating or remarrying. And the men dating or marrying them have no problem with them having to do a "traditional male role" either.
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Yes, the few here who you mention definitely represent the whole.
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Just you.
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ATVILLAS
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[quote] And then there are those who don't comprehend. [/quote]
In your world perhaps!!
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stoltz
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Yes, not the best retort, so I'll apologize for the insinuation. However, I do wish people would look at this issue at the 10,000ft level and not the 1ft level. There is definitely a problem that is occurring here - and based on this article and similar others, it appears to be psychological in nature.
So why are men becoming disinterested in something that historically has been revered by them?
Is it the water? Is it higher stress at work? Is it technological pressures? Or, perhaps, is it an increase stress in their personal lives due to their partner in some way. And, if so, in what way(s)?
I'm definitely all ears.
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chatter box
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What I'm trying to figure out is why a 204 word statement written in another country has been a topic for so long. There isn't any dought that stoltz has a good point. Probly at least 1-10 percent are because of bad x marrages. God just looking at my X would make me want to stop. The economy plays a huge factor and age both physically and mentally contribute to the problem. Before the little blue pill they were all thought to be from the same problem "age and stress". All the doctors are saying is all those years they were wrong about a good portion of there patients problem.
If you go back and look at the fact that in the 1950's when they were comparing things to there wasn't near as many over weight people either. Gee I wonder if that has anything to do with it?
I bet there as many reasons for someone not getting it up as there are responses to this post.
thats all I have to say about it
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jbar
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Alright then, I'll say it again in a slightly different way.
The overweight, at least with American men, is a symptom of the problem --of losing interest in sex--and not the cause of the problem.
The same phenomenon is exhibited when other naturally free male creatures are caught, put in a pen with a female, given all the food they want to eat, and expected to copulate.
In this corollary, the physical cage is replaced by a mental "cage" of fear. Fear of saying or doing the wrong thing and displeasing his spouse, with the likely resultant catastrophic "no-fault" divorce and the loss of practically everything he has; fear of even the natural fantasizing, in which the male imagines he is with a different woman, as this could lead to infidelity--or talking in his dreams-- and the same consequences above mentioned; fear of his wife being inclined to suspect that, as a healthy, functional man, he is likely having an affair, again with the above mentioned ruinous divorce being filed against him.
Even many single men are aware of the likely existence of this situatiion if any relationship should lead to marriage, and are thus discouraged from even having any serious relationship to start with. The solution to this, as well as many other problems, is to stop making men walk tightropes in their relationships with women, by either getting rid of the no-fault divorces or any financial consequences of them. As the man is nearly always the overwhelmingly major payer in divorce, marriage is the first step to a man being legally defrauded and stripped of everything he has without having done anything wrong. Is it any wonder that they are wary of having anything to do with this and uneable, therefore, to function naturally in this area?
Edited by jbar (05/13/08 07:34 PM)
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ATVILLAS
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You guys are too much!!! LOL
You really need to stop reading so much and get out and experience LIFE!!!! How else can you possibly form an opinion? It is not healthy to form opinions from someone elses's idea of what it is!
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Samsung
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Going back to the original title, I don't think men are not interested in sex. They are afraid if the consequences of sex, as most know, you will be a paying visitor to the child if that is what mom wants, in particular, if not married. Men tend to be analyzers. If the average CS order is $500/month, then the CS for 18 years will be $108,000 + daycare + medical insurance....and that's before they've spent a penny directly on the child.
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ATVILLAS
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Fear is on both sides of divorce problem!!
You seem to choose money as the fear factor, interesting.
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