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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: mfergel]
      #204293 - 05/13/08 01:57 PM (75.149.88.225)
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We've had parents that show up, leave the child and say we'll be back in two hours. See you later. That's rude.

WELL THAT’S YOUR OPNION AND I TRIED LIVING ON THE EAST COAST SO I SURLY KNOW WHAT THE TERM RUDE IS.

Gotta love the Midwest for its simplicity .


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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: mfergel]
      #204295 - 05/13/08 01:57 PM (65.165.5.70)
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[quote] What's the tank filled with? Is it jello? Are there girls in bikinis involved? Pudding would be fun. Not thirsty enough for a tank of liquor though. [/quote]

THERE YA GO MFERGEL. YOU'RE GONNA MAKE IT MAN.

I know how badly this shit sucks. If it wasn't for a bunch of folks that dragged me out of the tank (filled with licker), I seriously would have lost my mind. I couldn't even understand my alimony payments, I was so tired, emotionally drained and exhausted (from not sleeping). Everything was confusing.

Just take it one day, one small thing at a time.


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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: HardKnox]
      #204297 - 05/13/08 02:00 PM (207.172.137.28)
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I second what Knox said!

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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: Motor-Head]
      #204301 - 05/13/08 02:00 PM (171.159.192.10)
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[quote]We've had parents that show up, leave the child and say we'll be back in two hours. See you later. That's rude.

WELL THAT’S YOUR OPNION AND I TRIED LIVING ON THE EAST COAST SO I SURLY KNOW WHAT THE TERM RUDE IS.

Gotta love the Midwest for its simplicity . [/quote]

I'm from the midwest. Born and raised. There, the parents stayed because there was usually beer and mixed drinks available for the adults. You are right though, there was a simplicity to those parties. They were more like gatherings than events. :-)

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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: HardKnox]
      #204302 - 05/13/08 02:01 PM (68.110.66.68)
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So good to see you back HK.

Ferg. Take her. Stay.

Reasons: it's her friend and it's a birthdays. At this age they've not done a whole lot of birthdays so every one of them is special (not like with us, who can't even count our birthdays on both hands and both feet any more). And every party opportunity lost feels like a devastating thing, starting just about now for your daughter. She's at the age where you're no longer dragging her to these things and she's actually looking forward to them. For the next 15 years, every time her friends have fun and she is missing, she's going to resent it. So take her.

The reason you should stay: You need these people to think of you as a parent in your own right. You probably are not friends with a lot of your daughter's friends' parents. You've admitted that you were previously too involved with work to pay attention to the homefront. And so now is your time to create relationships with people who are going to be your homefront. These people don't dislike you, they simply don't know you... and probably visa versa. My husband is not particularly in love with his ex's friends, but she has made a point of making closest friends with people whose kids she wants the kids spending most of their time with. She sets it up so that her best friends have kids their ages. These people have heard all the trash about my husband that she could dish out. (it hurts the kids for other adults they come into contact with regularly to have a negative opinion of him). He'd have been smarter to spend more time with them rather than allow her to be the only influence on them. It's not necessarily comfortable at first with people you don't know, where the only thing in common is the kids, but you don't have to be best pals with these people, just comfortable enough to ask them over to YOUR house for ice cream when YOUR daughter's birthday arrives. You're used to having lots of contact with work mates but not a whole lot of contact with the neighbors... it's easy to get comfortable with that, but for your daughter's sake you need to broaden your horizons... find people you can chat with at the ballet recitals & softball games and birthday parties... like I said, you don't have to be thier best friends, but recognizing them and remembering thier names and occupations helps.

Once you break the ice, you might find some of these people like you. My husband has started to realize that hsi ex has burned her bridges with some of the kids' friends' parents... and it's interesting that these other kids' parents are gravitating to him, chatting with him during games, etc. It's not like we're all meeting for pizza & movies on Saturday nights... but at least it's no longer an uncomfortable feeling to go to the kids' events and see people looking at us like they wonder if the latest gossip she's reported about us is true. And the kids are happy to see thier Dad at these events even if they're not allowed to come say "hi" when their mother is with them (she's that jealous... it's wierd... it's no real rule, but they certainly know how upset she gets, and she always finds some way to make them feel bad if they have any fun with their dad).

You want to set things up in a way that you do not have to live the next 15 years in an uncomfortable situation the way my husband is having to spend his next few years (kids are a lot older). So go... talk to the parents... eat the ice cream. And get their addresses so you can invite them to the party for her at your house when the time comes (since her mother is doing a larger party, you do a smaller thing at Chuck-E-Cheese with JUST the one friend, that friend's parents and no gifts expected from the friend.


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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: HardKnox]
      #204303 - 05/13/08 02:01 PM (75.149.88.225)
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On another note you ask a question you already know the answer to or what you would do. (Like in this question) Then when you get advice/opinion you don’t agree with you want to argue about it. WTH you think this place is Debate 101

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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday par [Re: mrpat]
      #204305 - 05/13/08 02:04 PM (66.160.216.207)
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I don't have a problem with mfergel making all these posts. The problem in my opinion is that he doesn't listen to the answers. Each new thread he makes is something that's been addressed in another thread he started.

Should you take your daughter to the birthday party? If your wife isn't going to be there, then what difference does it make?

Do YOU want to take your daughter to the party?

Start making decisions that'll make YOU (and your daughter) happy. Screw the STBX's happiness.


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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: Motor-Head]
      #204306 - 05/13/08 02:04 PM (65.165.5.70)
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[quote] WELL THAT’S YOUR OPNION AND I TRIED LIVING ON THE EAST COAST SO I SURLY KNOW WHAT THE TERM RUDE IS. [/quote]

WHEN I VISITED THE EAST COAST EVERYBODY SEEMED REAL NICE AND THE NICE FAT EYETALIAN GIRL AT THE PIZZA JOINT EVEN STUFFED HER HUGE BANYAS IN MY FACE WHEN I TOLD HER I WAS FROM WISCONSIN.

OK, enough screwing around now. I think mfergel is at least dragged up on the beach.

I hope we didn't rip TOO much hair out.


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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: HardKnox]
      #204307 - 05/13/08 02:06 PM (74.233.219.7)
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""(filled with licker)"", HK, novel thought, Licker as opposed to Liquor!! Who needs Jello!!!

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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: Motor-Head]
      #204310 - 05/13/08 02:07 PM (171.159.192.10)
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Honestly Motor-head, I didn't know the answer to this question. I didn't know if I should go, if I should just drop her off, etc.

Gigi, thank you for your advice. Especially because I think one of the other reasons for the separation was my lack of involvment with her friends (just the fact that we had OUR OWN friends instead of just OUR friends was a warning sign). Anyway, I just always felt discomfort in hanging around with her friends, the lack of things in common, etc. I think a lot of it was anxiety as I'm actually that way with strangers as well. I've been trying to get over that so this is probably a good opportunity for me to continue down that path. Also, after the separation, I did actually email her best friend and appologize for not being more social with them. They felt I was just being rude and mean to them and they accepted my appology, which was nice. Guess I can do the same here. Might go a long way in repairing the perception people had of me.

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