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do I take daughter to her friends birthday party?
      #204258 - 05/13/08 12:58 PM (171.159.192.10)
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My wife has some friends. I've never cared for them. They have a daughter the same age as ours that she plays with. Apparantly, they are having a birthday party for their daughter the week that I am watching my daughter. My wife suggested I take our daughter to the party to see her little friend. So, do I go? I hate to be one of those parents that drops off their kid, disappears and then comes back a few hours later to pick her up. I don't care for these people but it's not like I hate them. I'd probably be fine being around them. Doesn't really matter to me either way if I have to socialize with them.

.........so, do I take my daughter to her friends birthday party (and stay) or not even though these people are my wifes friends?

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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: mfergel]
      #204260 - 05/13/08 01:04 PM (74.233.198.64)
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Your daughter should come first! Think about what she would like!!

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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: mfergel]
      #204261 - 05/13/08 01:07 PM (68.41.4.141)
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Try to take this in a proper manner.

You are starting threads waaaaaaaaaaaay too much. Slow your roll.

This is getting out of control on your part.

Every little issue you have…………………. you don't need to get a consensus on.


Give thought to others in need and be mindful of their issues that may need attending.


Not pissed just getting irritated.


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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: mfergel]
      #204262 - 05/13/08 01:11 PM (207.172.137.28)
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If it were me, and I don't have kids, I would bring her and stay. here she can develop and grow social skills. When she looks over her little shoulder for reassurance daddy is right there loving her, watching her test those little wings. And think of all the topics of conversation you now have. did you like the cake? the ice-cream, this behavior was acceptable, the way little Johnny acted wasn't.

Most importantly you are furthering your bond with your baby and SHOWING her actively you have interest in her life.

Go, enjoy, and time well spent maybe not directly with, but definitely for your daughter.

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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: mrpat]
      #204263 - 05/13/08 01:11 PM (171.159.192.10)
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I guess because when I say I did something, the vast majority seem to want to beat me to death with a baseball bat for doing it. I guess it would make most happy if I decide on my own what I want to do,......and then do the opposite of it.

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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: mfergel]
      #204264 - 05/13/08 01:15 PM (68.41.4.141)
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No you just either can't and never have made a decision for yourself or your an attention-[censored]. Which is it? You don't seem to take advise yet you ask in every little situation. Who are you and what are you looking for?

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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: LeeJ]
      #204265 - 05/13/08 01:15 PM (65.165.5.70)
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[quote] the ice-cream [/quote]

I, like Lee, have no children. But if I did, I guess I would take my daughter to the party, hang out with her (but not too close), sit around and eat ice cream and cake. And, if the other little girls parents annoyed me, I'd eat ALL the cake and ALL the ice cream, and make all the other little girls cry.

But that's just me.

Seriously, I'd take her.

Why the hell not?


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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: HardKnox]
      #204267 - 05/13/08 01:23 PM (207.172.137.28)
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don't forget you can rummage through the medicine cabinets....

only kidding
geez tough crowd today

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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: mfergel]
      #204270 - 05/13/08 01:33 PM (66.210.242.9)
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I would say go and keep an open mind.
Just because you may not have gotten along with the host/hostess of the party before doesn't mean they could turn out to be good friends.
Some of my best friends are people I had conflicts with in the past.

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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: LeeJ]
      #204271 - 05/13/08 01:34 PM (65.165.5.70)
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[quote] geez tough crowd today [/quote]

DO YOU REALLY THINK I'M BEING "TOUGH" THREATENING TO EAT ALL THE CAKE AND ICE CREAM?

I figured the kids are young. They'll, like, "get over it", you know?


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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: HardKnox]
      #204276 - 05/13/08 01:40 PM (68.41.4.141)
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Me thinks it might be me Knox.

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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: mrpat]
      #204278 - 05/13/08 01:42 PM (65.165.5.70)
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[quote] Me thinks it might be me Knox. [/quote]

YEAH WELL HEY LIGHTEN UP THERE DOOD.

Mfergel has every right to go into the tank if he so chooses.

I did.


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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: mfergel]
      #204280 - 05/13/08 01:45 PM (75.149.88.225)
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"I hate to be one of those parents that drops off their kid, disappears and then comes back a few hours later to pick her up."


I can tell you never took your daughter to a birthday party or they are a hell of a lot different on the east coast.

As a parent that has taken my kids to many parties this is the norm and it gives the parents some time to so something on there own while the child enjoys the party.

When you have a party do you want every dam parent setting around watching the birthday party. I know I sure as hell don’t. I don’t expect parents to stay at the parties I have thrown for my kids. I am happy to take the kids for 2-3 hours while they go get some stuff done. They come back and kids get to tell them what a great time they had.

If the P want to stay i have no problem with it but i rarly have had that. Or they leave after we start the party Thank god as it gets crazy when we start smashing the shit out of the pinyata because it does get crazy LOL


Damm near an insult to suggest your bad parent for dropping the kids off at a birthday party
Your so right when you say you have not been involved with you daughter in the past and it shows with post like this.


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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: HardKnox]
      #204284 - 05/13/08 01:50 PM (68.41.4.141)
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Yeah I agree...........but maybe someone (me) can cause this individual to start using his brain and God given abilities to stay out of the fuckin tank...............Sir.

I've been there doing that and if he dosen't have to sink that low cool.


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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: Motor-Head]
      #204285 - 05/13/08 01:50 PM (171.159.192.10)
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No, we've thrown plenty of parties for our daughter in the past. The vast majority of the parents always stay. Usually only one or two that drop off the child and bail, and more often than not, it seems like it's always the one child that gets out of hand. We've taken our daughter to parties in the past and again, the vast majority of the parents stay.

I'm not saying it's about being a bad parent or anything. But more often than not, these parents that leave make the assumption that it's ok. Too me, they should ask first if it is alright to leave their child unattended while they leave to do something else. We've had parents that show up, leave the child and say we'll be back in two hours. See you later. That's rude.

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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: HardKnox]
      #204286 - 05/13/08 01:50 PM (207.172.137.28)
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was that an ice cream tank???

No but seriously I know I don't post much but this place is for support. In the height of my divorce I didn't know which end was up and just seeing replies helped like I can't even express. This process does play tricks on you and fills you with self doubt.

So I guess if you don't like the post or the poster don't respond, but lend a hand and be a friend.

AND PUT DOWN THAT SPOON KNOX!!!!!!!

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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: mrpat]
      #204287 - 05/13/08 01:52 PM (171.159.192.10)
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[quote]Yeah I agree...........but maybe someone (me) can cause this individual to start using his brain and God given abilities to stay out of the fuckin tank...............Sir.

I've been there doing that and if he dosen't have to sink that low cool. [/quote]

What's the tank filled with? Is it jello? Are there girls in bikinis involved? Pudding would be fun. Not thirsty enough for a tank of liquor though.

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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: LeeJ]
      #204288 - 05/13/08 01:54 PM (75.185.132.243)
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take her or not.

not a big deal.

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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: LeeJ]
      #204291 - 05/13/08 01:54 PM (66.180.116.13)
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Just as there is never a dumb question there is never to many unless it is just the same thing over and over.

Go and have a good time. Your daughter will think it's great. I never talk a lot anyway at parties.

Hope your daughter liked the puppy.


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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: mfergel]
      #204292 - 05/13/08 01:55 PM (68.41.4.141)
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It's the tank where you lose everthing but the kids. You might be headed there and I trying to push you elsewhere for your own good.

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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: mfergel]
      #204293 - 05/13/08 01:57 PM (75.149.88.225)
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We've had parents that show up, leave the child and say we'll be back in two hours. See you later. That's rude.

WELL THAT’S YOUR OPNION AND I TRIED LIVING ON THE EAST COAST SO I SURLY KNOW WHAT THE TERM RUDE IS.

Gotta love the Midwest for its simplicity .


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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: mfergel]
      #204295 - 05/13/08 01:57 PM (65.165.5.70)
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[quote] What's the tank filled with? Is it jello? Are there girls in bikinis involved? Pudding would be fun. Not thirsty enough for a tank of liquor though. [/quote]

THERE YA GO MFERGEL. YOU'RE GONNA MAKE IT MAN.

I know how badly this shit sucks. If it wasn't for a bunch of folks that dragged me out of the tank (filled with licker), I seriously would have lost my mind. I couldn't even understand my alimony payments, I was so tired, emotionally drained and exhausted (from not sleeping). Everything was confusing.

Just take it one day, one small thing at a time.


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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: HardKnox]
      #204297 - 05/13/08 02:00 PM (207.172.137.28)
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I second what Knox said!

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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: Motor-Head]
      #204301 - 05/13/08 02:00 PM (171.159.192.10)
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[quote]We've had parents that show up, leave the child and say we'll be back in two hours. See you later. That's rude.

WELL THAT’S YOUR OPNION AND I TRIED LIVING ON THE EAST COAST SO I SURLY KNOW WHAT THE TERM RUDE IS.

Gotta love the Midwest for its simplicity . [/quote]

I'm from the midwest. Born and raised. There, the parents stayed because there was usually beer and mixed drinks available for the adults. You are right though, there was a simplicity to those parties. They were more like gatherings than events. :-)

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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: HardKnox]
      #204302 - 05/13/08 02:01 PM (68.110.66.68)
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So good to see you back HK.

Ferg. Take her. Stay.

Reasons: it's her friend and it's a birthdays. At this age they've not done a whole lot of birthdays so every one of them is special (not like with us, who can't even count our birthdays on both hands and both feet any more). And every party opportunity lost feels like a devastating thing, starting just about now for your daughter. She's at the age where you're no longer dragging her to these things and she's actually looking forward to them. For the next 15 years, every time her friends have fun and she is missing, she's going to resent it. So take her.

The reason you should stay: You need these people to think of you as a parent in your own right. You probably are not friends with a lot of your daughter's friends' parents. You've admitted that you were previously too involved with work to pay attention to the homefront. And so now is your time to create relationships with people who are going to be your homefront. These people don't dislike you, they simply don't know you... and probably visa versa. My husband is not particularly in love with his ex's friends, but she has made a point of making closest friends with people whose kids she wants the kids spending most of their time with. She sets it up so that her best friends have kids their ages. These people have heard all the trash about my husband that she could dish out. (it hurts the kids for other adults they come into contact with regularly to have a negative opinion of him). He'd have been smarter to spend more time with them rather than allow her to be the only influence on them. It's not necessarily comfortable at first with people you don't know, where the only thing in common is the kids, but you don't have to be best pals with these people, just comfortable enough to ask them over to YOUR house for ice cream when YOUR daughter's birthday arrives. You're used to having lots of contact with work mates but not a whole lot of contact with the neighbors... it's easy to get comfortable with that, but for your daughter's sake you need to broaden your horizons... find people you can chat with at the ballet recitals & softball games and birthday parties... like I said, you don't have to be thier best friends, but recognizing them and remembering thier names and occupations helps.

Once you break the ice, you might find some of these people like you. My husband has started to realize that hsi ex has burned her bridges with some of the kids' friends' parents... and it's interesting that these other kids' parents are gravitating to him, chatting with him during games, etc. It's not like we're all meeting for pizza & movies on Saturday nights... but at least it's no longer an uncomfortable feeling to go to the kids' events and see people looking at us like they wonder if the latest gossip she's reported about us is true. And the kids are happy to see thier Dad at these events even if they're not allowed to come say "hi" when their mother is with them (she's that jealous... it's wierd... it's no real rule, but they certainly know how upset she gets, and she always finds some way to make them feel bad if they have any fun with their dad).

You want to set things up in a way that you do not have to live the next 15 years in an uncomfortable situation the way my husband is having to spend his next few years (kids are a lot older). So go... talk to the parents... eat the ice cream. And get their addresses so you can invite them to the party for her at your house when the time comes (since her mother is doing a larger party, you do a smaller thing at Chuck-E-Cheese with JUST the one friend, that friend's parents and no gifts expected from the friend.


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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: HardKnox]
      #204303 - 05/13/08 02:01 PM (75.149.88.225)
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On another note you ask a question you already know the answer to or what you would do. (Like in this question) Then when you get advice/opinion you don’t agree with you want to argue about it. WTH you think this place is Debate 101

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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday par [Re: mrpat]
      #204305 - 05/13/08 02:04 PM (66.160.216.207)
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I don't have a problem with mfergel making all these posts. The problem in my opinion is that he doesn't listen to the answers. Each new thread he makes is something that's been addressed in another thread he started.

Should you take your daughter to the birthday party? If your wife isn't going to be there, then what difference does it make?

Do YOU want to take your daughter to the party?

Start making decisions that'll make YOU (and your daughter) happy. Screw the STBX's happiness.


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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: Motor-Head]
      #204306 - 05/13/08 02:04 PM (65.165.5.70)
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[quote] WELL THAT’S YOUR OPNION AND I TRIED LIVING ON THE EAST COAST SO I SURLY KNOW WHAT THE TERM RUDE IS. [/quote]

WHEN I VISITED THE EAST COAST EVERYBODY SEEMED REAL NICE AND THE NICE FAT EYETALIAN GIRL AT THE PIZZA JOINT EVEN STUFFED HER HUGE BANYAS IN MY FACE WHEN I TOLD HER I WAS FROM WISCONSIN.

OK, enough screwing around now. I think mfergel is at least dragged up on the beach.

I hope we didn't rip TOO much hair out.


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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: HardKnox]
      #204307 - 05/13/08 02:06 PM (74.233.219.7)
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""(filled with licker)"", HK, novel thought, Licker as opposed to Liquor!! Who needs Jello!!!

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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: Motor-Head]
      #204310 - 05/13/08 02:07 PM (171.159.192.10)
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Honestly Motor-head, I didn't know the answer to this question. I didn't know if I should go, if I should just drop her off, etc.

Gigi, thank you for your advice. Especially because I think one of the other reasons for the separation was my lack of involvment with her friends (just the fact that we had OUR OWN friends instead of just OUR friends was a warning sign). Anyway, I just always felt discomfort in hanging around with her friends, the lack of things in common, etc. I think a lot of it was anxiety as I'm actually that way with strangers as well. I've been trying to get over that so this is probably a good opportunity for me to continue down that path. Also, after the separation, I did actually email her best friend and appologize for not being more social with them. They felt I was just being rude and mean to them and they accepted my appology, which was nice. Guess I can do the same here. Might go a long way in repairing the perception people had of me.

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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: HardKnox]
      #204312 - 05/13/08 02:07 PM (75.149.88.225)
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ROTFLMAO

Ok i want to go were you did LOL


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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: mfergel]
      #204317 - 05/13/08 02:14 PM (68.41.4.141)
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Mfergel your a nice enough guy, the point is if we don't get you to trust you own decision making process what good are we. You need to learn to trust in yourself again. It's the biggest hurdle we face in divorce. You must trust in yourself to move forward and begin to understand the life that lies ahead. A person who can't think on any level for themselves is doomed to repeat his mistakes in life.

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Re: do I take daughter to her friends birthday party? [Re: Motor-Head]
      #204321 - 05/13/08 02:16 PM (65.165.5.70)
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