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Abandonment...what is it for real?
      #204886 - 05/15/08 08:35 AM (12.76.67.159)
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with my wife's 1st D, she was told not to leave the house so stayed with her hub thru the procedure and she was miserable. When my wife paid her atty for our D, apparently this guy told her not to leave the house either. So she asked me if i'd sign something saying she isnt abandoning the house because she wanted to stay with her mom a few days and go look for a place to stay. I said sure ill sign something, i'm not that kind of person that would lock you out. (plus her name is on the deed so i dont see what the big deal is)

so what IS abandonment that she is so worried about it? She was served a week ago if that matters. And when i talked to an atty here a while ago they said there is such a thing as abandonment but it's such a narrow set of circumstances it virtually never happens.

Plus reading thru this forum, i see MANY people move out before the D is final so i'm positive all those people arent being charged with abandonment and lose rights to property.

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Re: Abandonment...what is it for real? [Re: What will I lose]
      #205010 - 05/15/08 12:52 PM (12.76.66.46)
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Desertion and Abandonment

For all practical purposes, desertion and abandonment are one and the same. .There are two elements that have to be present in order to constitute desertion: the willful desire or the intent to desert and the cutting off of the marital relationship. In Pennsylvania, the abandonment has:

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continued for 12 uninterrupted months;
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must be deliberate and final;
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beyond any reasonable expectation of reconciliation.

There are two types of desertion-actual desertion and constructive desertion.

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Actual Desertion

When your spouse packs bags, books, and toothpaste, walks out the door, moves into another apartment, and stays there, he or she is guilty of actual desertion. The spouse voluntarily leaves and has no plans to return except perhaps to pick up a forgotten belonging.

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Constructive Desertion

You also can be deserted even if your spouse does not leave. If your spouse's behavior is so cruel or despicable that you find yourself dialing suicide prevention, you can leave and charge your spouse with constructive desertion. Constructive desertion is basically defined as one person leaving the relationship-not necessarily the home. The following are some cases of marital misconduct that have been applied to constructive desertion:

Willful refusal of sex, without just cause and nonperformance of other marital duties as to practically destroy the home life. The denial of sex alone does not constitute desertion. The spouse also has to stop carrying out the mutual responsibilities of the marital relationship.

Conduct that endangers a spouse's life, safety, health, and even self-respect (although an isolated assault or two will not necessarily constitute cruelty unless the act was particularly severe and atrocious).

One spouse's failure to move if, for example, the other gets a job transfer. The exception is if one spouse's choice of domicile is unsafe or unsuitable for the other.

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If the Deserter Returns

Your spouse has left you, spent six months chasing butterflies, and suddenly wakes up one morning and decides that you are the one after all. In good faith, your spouse shows up at your doorstep and begs you to forgive and forget. In Pennsylvania, if you say yes, then all is well. But if you say no and refuse to even see or listen to your spouse, then, strange but true, your spouse could sue you for desertion. The waiting period would start all over again beginning with the time of your refusal. Keep in mind that "good faith" is the key. If, for example, your husband deserted you and then tried to return only after realizing what the high costs of his alimony and legal fees would be, his desire to return would not necessarily be considered "good faith".

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