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Re: Due process is alive and well int Texas [Re: taryn]
      #200722 - 04/30/08 02:55 PM (32.97.110.142)
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The #1 story on the Austin news last night was that one of the "kids" gave birth in a hospital in San Marcos (about 30 mins south of Austin) yesterday. They had State Troopers on the maternity ward to keep people away. That's ALL the information they would release, too.

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Re: Due process is alive and well int Texas [Re: stoltz]
      #200724 - 04/30/08 02:59 PM (75.185.132.243)
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that's good!
it's about time there's a lid put on some of this.
i mean come on these are kids! they've already been taken from their comfort zone, possibly abused, they're scared,
imagine if on top of all that youre entire life is broadcasted for all the world to see!

it's one thing to broadcast poor brittney spears life all over the place...but she's a public figure and an adult..and the media has even let up on being in her business.
but to broadcast all this about kids...not very nice...

(course....i guess im reading it...so as a reader im part of the problem....hummmmm...bummer...)

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Re: Due process is alive and well int Texas [Re: taryn]
      #200736 - 04/30/08 03:14 PM (32.97.110.142)
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What's interesting is that it was the #1 story on the 6:00pm news last night on at least three local stations, yet on the front page of all three of those stations' web sites today, it's not even mentioned. Like you said, that could be good - or bad.

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Re: Due process is alive and well int Texas [Re: jbar]
      #200741 - 04/30/08 03:27 PM (66.180.116.13)
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I ask you, Is being placed in a situation like this REALLY more "in the best interests of the children" than to allow them to stay with their real fathers and mothers?

The law be damned! [/quote]

Millions are every day and less then 1% of the people in the world do what you explained. So just what makes you think they will be any different?


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Re: Due process is alive and well int Texas [Re: chatter box]
      #200742 - 04/30/08 03:28 PM (66.180.116.13)
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I would still like to know why no one will answer my question as to what would they expect to happen if it was a neighbor child that had called?

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Re: Due process is alive and well int Texas [Re: stoltz]
      #204633 - 05/14/08 12:10 PM (32.97.110.142)
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The #1 story on the Austin news last night was that one of the "kids" gave birth in a hospital in San Marcos (about 30 mins south of Austin) yesterday. They had State Troopers on the maternity ward to keep people away. That's ALL the information they would release, too.
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Well, lo-and-behold the FLDS "kid" that gave birth a few weeks back - and was being held in state custody - turned out to be an adult after all and NOT a minor. Ooops!

FDLS: 1

State of Texas: 0

I'm sure if she hasn't already done so, she'll soon be filing a federal lawsuit against the State of Texas.


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Re: Due process is alive and well int Texas [Re: stoltz]
      #204968 - 05/15/08 11:16 AM (32.97.110.142)
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BTW, I also heard the Texas Child Protective Services (CPS) want to take the newborn this WOMAN just had into custody as well. Keep in mind, no charges have been filed yet for ANY of these people.

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Re: Due process is alive and well int Texas [Re: stoltz]
      #204981 - 05/15/08 11:45 AM (63.127.202.141)
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Yes, this WOMAN is 22. however, she also has a 4 year old child. That probably means she got put into the baby making machine at age 17. I don't really know who these people are, or what they stand for, but I do believe the women/girls were taken advantage of. Even if they were protected from our rotten culture and the outside world. They weren't protected from the men in their own religion.

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Re: Due process is alive and well int Texas [Re: germangirl631]
      #204989 - 05/15/08 12:03 PM (32.97.110.142)
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If they've broken the law, then so be it - they should be prosecuted. But even if ONE person had their constitutional rights violated in the process, I think that trumps just about everything. Because if the State of Texas can ignore their rights, who's to say they won't do it again, and again, and again. And, perhaps, next time it will be YOU or someone close to you all because the Texas AG/CPS got a bogus call from someone.

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Re: Due process is alive and well int Texas [Re: stoltz]
      #206876 - 05/22/08 05:28 PM (32.97.110.142)
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FINALLY - someone in the judicial system of Texas has some brains ...

Court: Texas had no right to take polygamists' children
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/05/22/flds.ruling/index.html

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SAN ANGELO, Texas (CNN) -- The state of Texas should not have removed children from a polygamist sect's ranch because it didn't prove they were in "imminent danger," an appeals court ruled Thursday.

In its ruling, the Texas 3rd District Court of Appeals decided in favor of 38 women who had challenged the removals and appealed a decision last month by a district judge that the children remain in state custody.

"The existence of the FLDS belief system as described by the department's witnesses, by itself, does not put children of FLDS parents in physical danger," the three-judge panel said.
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This is a state court of appeals decision (and not a federal court), so we have yet to hear about the due process aspect ... yet.


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