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Re: separated and hating it [Re: Zephyr]
      #204841 - 05/15/08 12:12 AM (72.218.63.100)
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"Now all I can think about is this other guy with her. The divorce is final, other girls have expressed interest in me, but I'm just not ready to do anything. She's really destroyed me in the way she's done all this."

Breathe and let it go. It will destroy you if you ALLOW such thoughts to take over. It’s done, it’s finished…now start living and be responsible for you. Think about it…doesn’t it feel good when the only person you have to please is yourself? May be there is something wrong with me, but I'm beginning to get excited about life (too much Dr. Phil 'Phil'osophy goin on ...but he's got a good point.)


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Re: separated and hating it [Re: movingon2]
      #205238 - 05/16/08 04:06 AM (76.21.84.87)
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My ex acted the SAME WAY as yours are now. Said she wanted a "trial separation". She was cold and un-approachable and the "wall" was up. In reality, her and her boyfriend were plotting a new life together and how to gouge me for every penny to help them fund it. And I fell for this baloney for 6 months till I realized I was being taken for a ride. If I were able to have a do-over, I'd never have married that woman. My advice? Hire a P.I. Then you'll KNOW for sure if she's being honest. Many gals leave their husbands and that security, for security with someone else. Not all, but many. Guys are the same as well.

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Re: separated and hating it [Re: allthumbs]
      #206650 - 05/22/08 02:48 AM (76.15.18.112)
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I bet if most of you guys read these post a year from now you will be saying to yourself "what was I thinking". Your wives have moved out, I KNOW it's hard but the best thing you can do is cut your loses and move on with your lives. Find someone new who WANTS to be with you. Treat yourself better.....you deserve it.

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Re: separated and hating it [Re: WhatNext]
      #207029 - 05/23/08 12:59 PM (75.218.99.179)
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I understand what you are going through, Mfergel and I both have the same situation. My wife left me for another man three days after she wanted a separation. Now 54 days later she is living with him. Well, it only took 14 days for "peter" the new guy to move in her apartment. The best thing that I did for myself to move on was to just give her space. NO CONTACT. I don't call her, text message her, no email, no nothing. She hates it. I can tell. I have seen her drive by my house, she calls me all the time to see how I am. But I just keep it simple. I have filed for divorce now, because how can I ever take her back after someone elses Di*k has been inside her??? Seriously man!! Why I am waiting around for something to happen that may or may not happen. I have hope, but I just don't want to waste anymore time taking care of me. So my suggestion to you, TAKE CARE OF YOU!! Go out and buy yourself something nice. Maybe some new clothes, a new watch, TV. If you don't have a whole lot of funds like me, then go to the gym everyday. I have bad days and good day. Example, last night was a bad night. I cried for a few hours, but today I have a clear head, and have a content smile on my face. Good luck man, but like Mfergel said, strap in, it will be a bumpy ride!! But we are all here for you! Remember that.

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Re: separated and hating it [Re: derkacz78]
      #207072 - 05/23/08 03:04 PM (171.159.192.10)
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Yup, my wife didn't waste anytime getting on with her life and karma or not, I can't wait until her life is all crash and burn again. I just hope my daughters life doesn't have to suffer for it the next time it happens, and the time after that, etc.

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Re: separated and hating it [Re: Downwardspiral]
      #209394 - 06/01/08 08:53 PM (74.79.68.137)
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Now, how about a womans point of view. I too left my husband 1 year and 2 months ago. We were always fighting, mostly about money. I finally couldn't take it anymore and left. Prior to leaving, we were even sleeping in seperate rooms. I told him I needed to leave in order to save our marriage. He didn't understand. He never expressed his feelings nor did he want to do counseling. My heart has been broken ever since. I still love him and he doesn't want me and I'm the one that left. With in months of leaving the fighting got worse. We both said and did bad things to each other. We hated each other. Then I thought I was doing the right thing by getting on with my life. Now a year later I find that I still love him and want to come back home. He never talks about anything personal, so I am writing a letter to him expressing my feelings in hopes that he responds. This will be my last attempt to save our marriage. I am sorry to tell you, but it will be awhile before she is ready to discuss things with you. If she wants the space, please give it to her but dont give up. If you truely love her, you wont. But from a womans view, she needs the space and time to figure out who she is inside and what she really wants. If you give her that, you have a better chance at getting her back completely and most likely a better relationship. But everyone is right, it will get worse before it gets better. I wish my husband wanted us to be together as much as you do with your wife. Good luck to you.

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Re: separated and hating it [Re: mev1985]
      #210721 - 06/07/08 02:10 AM (207.177.243.254)
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mev1985-

After going to counseling and my wife telling me that I made all the changes into a better man, and her wanting to start a family- my wife still gave me the time and space speech as well. She told me she wanted the D. But then got all hurt when I took of my wedding band and asked to not to sleep in the same bed as me. I was freaking CRUSHED by her actions. I actually went numb for a few days.

You said, "But from a womans view, she needs the space and time to figure out who she is inside and what she really wants. If you give her that, you have a better chance at getting her back completely and most likely a better relationship."

REally? She should have thought about what she really wants before she said "I DO". 9 years of together is a little late for figuring out who she is. When she leaves, I will make sure it is forever. She has no clue that I plan on severing all friendship ties and go strictly to NO CONTACT. Nobody has the right to crush my heart that way, and then expect me to take them back. I am worth more than that. I am no puppy dog who will go back to the master who beats him. Sorry.


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Re: separated and hating it [Re: phyzguy]
      #210724 - 06/07/08 02:34 AM (67.32.60.14)
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Phyz:

Good show...I wish I had the balls for that from the start.

My stbx had recently told me: "I asked for time and space, and you didn't give it to me, so now we're past that point."

My reply was silence...and still is. She wants time and space? Have at it...ALL the time and space you want..as in, forever.

Should have thought about that before you said "till death do us part", biatch. Since when is it okay to just walk out and say "leave me the f*ck alone until I decide its okay for you to talk to me again"?!

Last time I checked, never. That's NOT how a relationship, or marriage, works. So....I'm leaving her the f*ck alone permanantly....just what she wanted.

She can have all the time and space she wants with someone else...I'm NOBODY'S doormat.

Waiting until AFTER you are married is NOT the time to "find yourself"...nor is it the appropriate time to figure out if you really want to be married in the first place or not. Once you are married is NOT the time to suddenly go "wait a minute...can we, like, live apart again so I can decide if I want to stay married?"

No, thanks. You either honor the VOWS you took or you do not. As Master Yoda said "Do or do not. There is no try."

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Re: separated and hating it [Re: picasso]
      #210775 - 06/07/08 12:49 PM (70.18.178.119)
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i would like to also give a women's perspective.

for women that request a div/sep, a lot of times it is because they feel taken for granted or they feel they are not being treated well. they are looking for a reaction from their H's that shows some depth of feeling. i'm assuming here, but from my experience and what i've seen of marriages, the husbands put the ring on and feel their job is done. romance and chivalry toward the wives goes out the window. (i've seen my husband nearly knock someone over to open the door for an attractive girl w/a carriage). meanwhile, a few weeks later, i came home from grocery shopping w/our 10month old baby. i get out of the car w/her on one arm, the diaper bag on another, a grocery bag hanging from one pinky, fumbling for keys and all the while my husband is across the street having a conversation w/our neighbor. he waves at me and never bothers to come over to help. what the hell is that? no, he def was not involved in any way w/neighbor. but when i confronted him, he said "we were in the middle of a conversation." Well, duh, say excuse me i need to give my wife a hand. That's just one example. here's another; i had the baby on one arm while trying to manuever the carriage down a few stairs. he was mowing the lawn, but never bothered to stop to help me. this was shortly after i discovered his online transgression that was full of niceties toward a near stranger. come on guys, what is this kind of sh1t? i'm still married but that is the kind of stuff (and lots more probs of course) that would make me want and go through with a separation. and unless my H can convince me that he really loves me and needs me and regrets taking advantage of me; i would not give it a second thought and go through w/a divorce.

men, alot of your stuff is caught up in pride. it does no good. women are looking for reactions. you say, your woman leaves and boom, you are slamming the door shut behind her and cutting all ties. you are just spiting yourself. if you want to keep it together, you should give her space and in the meantime, take a hard look at what you may have done to cause her to want to leave. then see if you can't win her back. try swallowing your pride and admit you may not be the man and H you think you are. my H thinks he's the best H to come down the pike. Well I can tell you he is a great provider and great Dad, but he lacks severely in the emotional support, attentive and affection areas. i truly believe he thinks he brings home the check and his job is done. oh, i could go on and on. thankfully we are going to counseling to hopefully address and resolve these issues.

i am not answering anyone in particular because i really don't know enough about all of your stories. i guess in some cases the wives have been super biatches. i don't necessarily think that because a wife wants a separation, that she is treating her husband like a dormat. these are just some general observations, but when wives leave they may be in real pain and don't want to be taken advantage of anymore. they need the time to see how things are w/o you, which in turn could give them a new appreciation for you, which in turn could make for a better marriage if you reunite. i can understand the crushing part of being told, I want to separate (translated by hubs as "I don't love you anymore"). That is not always the case. If you want to work it out, you will respect her need to clear her head, etc. Of course, in the cast of running to another guy's arms.....that's kind of shitty. However, if they are not feeling it at home, it's not hard to fall victim to someone elses advances.

lots of blabbing....hope i made some sense.


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Re: separated and hating it [Re: roses808]
      #210893 - 06/08/08 01:30 AM (67.32.60.14)
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Roses:

From a guys point a view: I've spent the last YEAR of my life being separated, while being constantly told that there is NO hope of getting back together.

Despite this, I kept up hope, treated her well, etc etc all the while I was repeatedly verbally assaulted and told I was the one at fault.

I simply got tired of being a "catch-all" for everything that is wrong with her life. Every bad thing that has happened to her in her life is NOT my fault...and I'm not going to accept the total blame anymore.

If she wants to stay together, then she should have actually DONE something about it instead of leaving. I tried REPEATEDLY to get her to go to counseling, see a therapist, etc.

Women need to understand one thing, and understand it well....if you leave, then stay gone. We dont need you to keep torturing us with the whole "Well, MAYBE we can get back, maybe not" bullshit. If the woman wanted to work it out, then she would actually work. LEaving simply says "I'm too lazy to put any effort into this, and leaving seems easier." It is selfish..plain and simple.

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