stoltz
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Powerful editorial ...
http://www.mercatornet.com/articles/misandry_is_the_message/P0/
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The family on the sofa is divided, but not equally. On one side a sullen, rather menacing father stares defiantly at the camera; on the other, a waifish, stressed-looking mother is shielding anxious children. The message of the advertisement is one we have heard or seen innumerable times in the media: domestic violence is only perpetrated by men, who are by nature disposed to controlling behaviours, while women and children (an inseparable unit) are always innocent victims.
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Regretfully, it doesn't state what the facts are: Women abuse children at a 2 to 1 ratio when compared to men.
It's not that they are anymore violent then men; it's that they have most of the custodial time, thus it is a crime of opportunity.
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theanswerguy
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It's not that they are anymore violent then men; it's that they have most of the custodial time, thus it is a crime of opportunity.
>>>>>>>>>>> How would that apply to the 50% of parents that NEVER divorce ?
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A majority of abuse occurs with single parents. Also, a significant amount of abuse that happens to kids with married parents is done by both parents.
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theanswerguy
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A majority of abuse occurs with single parents.
>>>>>>>>> No .
Also, a significant amount of abuse that happens to kids with married parents is done by both parents.
>>>>>>>>> No .
From Child Maltreatment 2006 :
Living Arrangement of Victims
Data are incomplete for the living arrangement of victims. Slightly more than one-half of the States (28) reported on the living arrangement of victims during the alleged abuse or neglect. Among these 28 States, nearly 40.0 percent (37.3%) of the victims had unknown or missing data on living arrangement and were excluded from the analysis. Approximately 27 percent (26.7%) of victims were living with a single mother. Nearly 20 percent (19.7%) of victims were living with married parents, while approximately 22 percent of victims (21.6%) were living with both parents but the marital status was unknown. It is hoped that the reporting of this data element will improve in the coming years.
Victims by Relationship to Perpetrators
Nearly 83 percent (82.4%) of victims were abused by a parent acting alone or with another person. Approximately, 40 percent (39.9%) of child victims were maltreated by their mothers acting alone; another 17.6 percent were maltreated by their fathers acting alone; and 17.8 percent were abused by both parents.19 Victims abused by nonparental perpetrators accounted for 10.0 percent (figure 3-5). A nonparental perpetrator is defined as a caregiver who is not a parent and can include foster parent, child daycare staff, unmarried partner of parent, legal guardian, and residential facility staff.
The data for victims of specific maltreatment types were analyzed in terms of perpetrator relationship to the victim. Of the victims who experienced neglect, 86.7 percent were neglected by a parent. Of the victims who were sexually abused, 26.2 percent were abused by a parent and 29.1 percent were abused by a relative other than a parent.20
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My information was from another study, but the results were essentially the same. Women abused the kids at a 2/1 ratio compared to men (40/17.6, or 2.3 to 1 in your study). Both parents were involved in the child abuse in a significant number of cases (almost 1 out of 5 in both studies). In your study, nearly 40% were excluded due to incomplete information, which is too bad, as it makes the percentages potentally inacurate. As your study shows, only 20% reported abuse in a married home.
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Without regards to actual prevalence, I would assume abuse is reported much more vigorously in divorced situations. In fact, there are cases where abuse is reported where there is none.
With married parents, even if both are not involved in the abuse, you're much more likely to have one parent protecting the other by not reporting.
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stoltz
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Although I quoted the first paragraph of the editorial, the more important message that is being pumped into society is the same old adage:
men=bad / women=good
As the editorial says, "[...] misandry is ubiquitous in the media – and by media I mean all kinds: advertisements, sitcoms, films, political ads, TV talk shows, social service agency websites and billboards, and of course the punditocracy."
It's no wonder VAWA, VAWA II, and a bunch of other legislation was passed - all for one purpose: to "control" men, ALL men. This not only includes men WRT DV, but also when it comes to divorce situations - especially those involving children. Remember, "women and children ([are] an inseparable unit) [and] are always innocent victims."
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Did you know that editorials are someone's opinion? They can spin their words to get whatever point across they want.
I agree to a point that men are basically bashed on TV. However, if it were the women getting bashed, women would probably just stop watching TV! I know I wouldn't watch any show that degrades women. But, men don't seem to mind watching shows that degrade men since the shows seem to stay on the air. What does that say?
Do men, in general, not care about their image as a gender?
Do women control the airwaves?
Do women stand up for what they believe in more than men?
Is our society messed up? (I'll answer that one - YES!!)
Do we have a lack of male role models in the media? (YES again)
Has the women's movement gone too far?
Are women more at risk from violent abuse at the hands of men than visa versa? (I'd say yes since men are physically stronger than women)
I'm not saying that there aren't women out there who abuse men. However, in my 45 years, I have never met one. I have met women who were abused by men, though. Several of them.
Maybe men don't seek the help they need so their cause isn't known. You'd need to start a forum for abused men to come to more of a consensus on that one. If you think there's a problem, stand up for it and your rights. Complaining here isn't going to get you noticed.
You'd need to go through political channels. media channels. Write to Oprah. Who knows? Take your message outside this forum.
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You've NEVER known an abused man? I find that hard to believe. Ever know that family where everyone whispers about the guy being henpecked? And how do you knwo that you've met abused women? Becasue they TOLD You about it, right? NOT because you watched the guy beat her up. The reason you think you never met an abused man is that the men don't speak up and talk about it. The cause of abused men is as much in the dark ages as the cause of abused women was back in the 1950s, when women were instructed that it was their job to shut up & take it.
It takes REALLY knowing all the symptoms and asking the right questions, before you ever get a man to disclose to you that they were hit. And they often don't even take it seriously THEN. So don't assume that you've never met a man who was abused. You've just never met one who was going to admit it to you.
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