Tranquility
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Still not real sure about what to do. He'll probably call to hang out tomorrow since we're both off. Really I guess I'm more worried about hurting our friendship than about the work thing.
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tookway2much
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OUCH!!!! Mixing business with pleasure is never a good ideal. Or is it?
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KGrow
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Most companies have rules (for good reason) against intimacy with subordinates. Your boss could loose his job. You could loose your coworkers' respect. If you care about your career, rules or no rules, you don't want to go there.
If you really want to proceed, get yourself transferred to a different part of the organizational chart first.
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juliacinaz
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Never find your honey where you make your money.
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MarMcMar
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I can tell by your tone that you're going to do what you want anyway, but I would "Run Forest, run!" from this cluster-f.
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Tranquility
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Just wish I knew for sure what I want. I have been trying to psyche myself out on the age thing.
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gigi
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Here's the thing. He's a whole different generation from you. I'm guessing he's closer to my age. Men of my age group do not take sex as lightly as I gather men of your age group do. And FWB may sound fun to them in a real mid-life crisis kind of way, the same way that they always look a little more interested whenever a woman suggests she may be bisexual and he starts imagining the possibilities of having a 3-way... for MY generation, they really are considered nasty types if they do more than just imagine & joke about it!
Not that he would necessarily fall in love with you... more likely quite the opposite, he'd start to disrespect you TREMENDOUSLY.
Now, I worked in an industry where a significant portion of the support staff believed that they were entitled to pursue relationships with the professional staff and if they could make it work then they'd snagged themselves a great guy. The ones who were doing it believed EVERYONE was doing it, and the ones who were not were always appalled about it. THe ones who WERE usually could point to friends who had done it and not bothered their careers... but I was on the professional staff side of this and watching lots of my men friends treating various assistants like thier own personal little dating service... and I can tell you that careers were ruined.
There was never one of these that started where they thought it would progress fartehr than FWB (at least on the guy's side) but about half of them would end up with something wrong happening. I watched one friend stalk his former clerk. Another lost his job because several of his former lovers (FWBs if you want to say that) found out about each other & got angry. I saw clerks & assistants shifted from assignment to assignment as thier career paths fizzled because no one wanted them in their devision because they had that kind of reputation that would cause everyone to nudge each other & wink if the boss was even a tiny bit of a possible fwb for her.
Yet several clerks... their whole purpose fo rentering jobs in our office was the possibility of finding a great guy with a great job to hook up with and they truly believed like you did... that it did not matter.
From the perspective yuo're looking at, nothing bad can happen, and if it does, you can always sue. But why set yourself up for it? Why set him up for it?
Once sex enters into the picture, I don't care how casually you take it... people's emotions change.
At the very least, you'll know intimate things about each other that employers & employees should not know about each other. His next girlfriend after you might just be THE one... the one he flips for and wants to marry, and guess where you'll be THEN... certainly not anyplace where there is a danger that his new sweet wife-to-be might EVER have a private talk with you where she would find out any intimate details... not that you'd betray the trust, but he'd be a fool to trust anyone with the private information around the woman he loves.
This is about as ill-advised as one of those kids who tapes themselves doing the deed and then tosses it onto a computer & maybe thier myspace just for fun. I guess it's a generational thing, but I would NEVER have considered that any more than I'd consider a fling with a boss.
I can tell you that from my perspective... probably about 20 years further along in life than you... the people who have succeeded in life are NOT the ones who took sex that casually... and I am from a generation where free sex was truly a possibility because we had just been given access to reliable birth control and the worst STD you could get was herpes. Married people were doing Key parties and our brothers & sisters were moving to communes where free love was not associated with a very strict and cloistered religion. We were not so uptight as it might sound... but we didn't have access to the internet for use in ruining our reputations for life... and we didn't have situations like the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings to look at as possible problems to our careers if we made an off color remark. We were naive and free and we truly did not have any reason to believe that anything we did would follow us forever...
So some people DID do exactly what you're planning. THey DID participate in wife swapping, they did try to sleep thier way up the corporate ladder. They looked for Mr. Goodbar or had casual sex with friends & strangers without any feelings of moral guilt or outrage.
NOW, 20 -30 years later... if they did it back then, they are embarassed about it and don't really want anyone talking about it... Or they are not particularly successful in the long range with careers or relationships.
But do what you want. You seem headed towards it anywyas. Youve thought through all the excuses for why it's right and OK to do... just like the kids who put embarassing stuff about themselves on YouTube... go for it. I just hope you don't find yourself embarassed, demoted, transferred, uncomfortable at work, etc., etc., etc.
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Tranquility
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Now, I worked in an industry where a significant portion of the support staff believed that they were entitled to pursue relationships with the professional staff and if they could make it work then they'd snagged themselves a great guy. From the perspective yuo're looking at, nothing bad can happen, and if it does, you can always sue. But why set yourself up for it? Why set him up for it?
I just hope you don't find yourself embarassed, demoted, transferred, uncomfortable at work, etc., etc., etc.
Wow, not sure where all that came from- First, he's a sales manager and I'm a sales rep-although he has the authority, I make more money-Definitely not trying to "snag" myself a great man-we're both professionals and if I wanted that I'd pursue a real relationship with one of the men who would like just that from me. I simply am not interested in a real relationship at this time. Next, I have been in this male-dominated industry for about 12 years and have never even considered suing or otherwise messing up someone's career-you have to expect a certain level of aggressiveness in a competitive industry with large male egos-ie. banter with the boys or get shut out and black listed. Finally, the things you mentioned are very unlikely to happen. As I said, this is a fairly commonplace situation in my industry and I have no interest in posting any videos on myspace. Although I do have a fairly casual view of sex, I have been fairly successful in my life. I'm not sure how you are tying success and sexuality together. I appreciate your opinion, but I think we have an entirely different belief system.
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Books29
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Tranquility, I'm in sales too. I also do pretty well. I don't try to fit in with the whole male dominated ego thing. It's just not worth it to me. I'm telling you from one professional to another just as these other people are that I would not do it if I were you. You WILL lose respect. If you want to have a non-serious sexual escapade, do it with somebody outside your company. Your belief system may be different, and that's totally ok. but it could put your job, and the respect people have for you in jeopardy. He is YOUR BOSS and he could make or break you in your job depending if it goes well or not and from what I am hearing, this isn't going to go well. So find somebody else not related to your job to have fun with. That's just my two cents though but I just would not do it if I were you.
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Tranquility
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Thanks, Books, for the advice without judgement. I think with him, it's more a trust thing-as in maybe I'm trusting him a little more than I should. I've been ignoring his calls all day and am beginning to think maybe I should find what I'm looking for somewhere else and keep this more of a friendly flirtation/ego booster for both of us.
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