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Are men finally getting the message?
      #209910 - 06/03/08 11:48 PM (68.88.68.198)
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Perhaps my efforts as well as those of others here are finally doing some good! Reading the following report that men are now largely avoiding marriage because of the likelihood of divorce, and its dangers to them, was very gratifying to me and I'd like to share it:

http://www.glennsacks.com/enewsletters/enews_6_3_08.htm


"THOSE WHO WERE FINANCIALLY SOUND WERE TERRIFIED WHAT A BAD DIVORCE COULD DO TO THEM"*..."One thing I found a little surprising is this: Weisman said his research blew away any idea that single men were unhappy...A compelling issue was how many of them had found contentment in a never-married life", he said. "They had created lives full of careers, friends and ambitions. It was not like they walk around all day worried about not being married."

"I'm of the general opinion that marriage and fatherhood is a good thing for men, and that unfortunately IT HAS BEEN POISONED TO SOME DEGREE BY OUR ANTI-MALE FAMILY LAW SYSTEM. Perhaps more of these bachelors are happy being single, as this research suggests."


Perhaps men are not the stupid, hormone-controlled fools that politicians, the law, lawyers and many women assume. The comments and experiences of many of the subscribers to the subject web site, made on the blog for this article, were especially revealing.

You can fool some men all of the time, or you can fool all men some of the time, but you cannot fool all men all of the time!

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Edited by jbar (06/04/08 05:16 AM)


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Re: Are men finally getting the message? [Re: jbar]
      #210056 - 06/04/08 03:42 PM (76.15.18.112)
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This is great!!


I know now that I am FREE MAN I will NEVER EVER get married again.

What would be the point?


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      #210726 - 06/07/08 03:15 AM (67.32.60.14)
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i wish I had seen that BEFORE I got married. So much of it is ABSOLUTELY true.

Here are my favorite quotes from the blog:

"Even politically liberal men complained to me that they feel that the bar has only been raised with little reward. Career women are more demanding of men financially and in addition are independent and ready to walk at a moment's notice. So what's the point?"

>>> Indeed. "Career women" really ARE much more demanding of their husbands, and since they are so independant, they are more willing to simply walk out of the marriage without notice.

"It's all because women priced themselves out of the market offering nothing in return. Marriage once guaranteed sex, it no longer does. It still does guarantee support of the wife. That means the husband to be is offering a guarantee enforced by law and the wife to be is not. What's in marriage for the husband again?"

>>>> The wife almost always gets support of some kind, even in a situation where there is equal visitation of the children. Regardless of who broke the marital contract. In a truly fair system, if the visitation is 50/50, and the wife chose to leave, then there would be no alimony/CS paid to the wife. She chose to leave, she should have to deal with the consequences of her decision.

"Regardless of how infatuated or "in love" men may feel to be, the base-rate statistics about marriage can be useful. I believe that the research suggests the following:

1).About half of all marriages fail.
2) About 2/3 of divorces are initiated by females"

>>>> So 50% of marriages end in divorce, and the wife is the one that initiates the divorce about 66% of the time. Why is it then that the woman is awarded primary custody >80% of the time and recieves large child support payments or alimony roughly the same 80% of the time?

Here is something ELSE that recently was brought to my attention: My stbx and I are separated...have been for close to 9 months. We are not technically divorced yet. If she were to go out and cheat on me and get pregnant, *I* would be responsible for that new baby, regardless of the fact that she got pregnant by some other guy outside of our marriage. I would be legally FORCED to pay child support for a child that is not even MINE because despite the fact that she acted like a wh0re, we are still married, and I would be expected to provide financially for my wife's baby, even though it would not be mine. The actual biological father of the baby could simply walk away if he chose to, secure in the fact that his child would be paid for by some other guy whos wife he impregnanted.

If THAT isn't the perfect example of how the legal system is biased towards the female, I dont know what is.

YEah, I think I'm gonna stay single from now on.

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NO FATE


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Re: Are men finally getting the message? [Re: jbar]
      #211118 - 06/09/08 01:32 PM (72.183.116.176)
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Exactly. Same as what you, I, and a lot of men here and elsewhere have been saying. While I'm not holding my breath it'll happen soon enough, I figure we will one day see a trend where marriage itself will be seen as taboo (at least for the general male populous). However, along that same trend, I figure laws will continue to bend to favor women, such as we have in Texas with "common law" marriages but even further. By that I mean just the act of copulating with a woman - ANY woman (even a one-night stand) - could have disastrous financial affects for a man, whether the "meeting" results in conception or not. Wait a minute ... We already ARE at that stage. Ok, how about having a GF? Nope, DV laws are on her side there as well. Well heck, might as well just create a new national tax that only men - single, married, gay, doesn't matter - pay that gets distributed to the women.

What - you think I'm joking?


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      #211278 - 06/10/08 10:00 AM (59.95.109.187)
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It is really a great and nice post. I feel like a free man and i am never gonna get married again.


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      #211292 - 06/10/08 11:06 AM (32.97.110.142)
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BTW, I was channel flipping on Sunday and happened upon the very tail-end of a segment on CNN's Headline News channel where they were talking about this same thing (from the little bit I got). Of course, their position was gender-neutral, but it was still interesting to see that marriage is slowly (or quickly?) becoming a thing of the past due in (large) part to all the financial problems it can create (for men).

I tried looking on CNN's website today for more info on the segment, but strangely couldn't find anything. Hmmmmm.


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