tiredofnagging
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Reged: 05/09/08
Posts: 170
Loc: Las Vegas, NV USA
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The pounding part is, of course, figurative.
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tiredofnagging
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Reged: 05/09/08
Posts: 170
Loc: Las Vegas, NV USA
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[quote] You said she can't understand these things, not me. You also called your wife a [censored] on wheels. That she may be but she is your wife and you are married to her. Feeling that way about the woman you are married to isn't a great place to be for either of you. It might have something to do with how she is behaving.
If she is showing no interest as you say, I would say she DOES understand perfectly well and her way of dealing with the stress of it all is to not deal with it at all.
When you say you want her to be part of the solution, you are not saying what the solution is that you are sitting down to explain to her. If you are continually sitting down to explain the problem, she will not want to hear it any longer if you don't also have some options.
And I get the picture perfectly clearly thank-you. If you are at risk of foreclosure, you maybe should ask her which solution she thinks is best, or tell her YOUR preferred solution and ask for feedback on that. [/quote]
I appreciate the time you spent responding to my issue, however there isn't a word you've offered that either I am not aware of or can be regarded as helpful. Let me tell you why...
First of all our financial position is precarious, like a lot of others. I am trying to be proactive because whether or not she gets involved, the situation must be dealt with. Finances and food on the table are not things you play around with because of feelings. Most banks don't care when it comes to paying mortgages. The fact is, as a wife and partner she needs to be a part of the solution and I have invited her to do so. I guess you didn't get that part. And oh by the way I have, in detail, explained the problem and offered possible scenarios in which to solve them. If there's anything more I could be doing in a tangible basis, I'd love to know.
Secondly you seem to infer that she may be choosing not to deal with it as a coping mechanism, is that right? And you obviously think I'm stupid by stressing that I should ask her which solution is the right one, like I haven't considered that yet.
Lastly, when someone goes on to a forum like this, there is an obvious plea for help from those who have been in the same shoes. Your smug, cavalier attitude suggests to me that either you have no clue about relationships or never had one. I have referred to her as a ____ on wheels simply because she acts like one. That must come as a shock to you. ;-)))
Bottom line is, helpful is good. I'm sure you would want that if your situation called for it. Speaking out of context, knee jerk reactions and an obvious bias are not helpful.
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stoltz
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Reged: 01/29/07
Posts: 1493
Loc: Texas
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Your situation sounds familiar (although, not exact) to my own. My wife is a bit controlling, a bit narcassistic, a bit perfectionist, and a lot moody. Sometimes I feel I need to walk on egg shells around her and it makes communication rather painful to say the least. I can try talking to her about real estate one time and get the "I'll play dumb and not interested" wife one minute and the next she is verbally assaulting me for not talking to her about it. It's like I have to flip a coin to see if she's responsive to discussing something or if I'm in for another verbal bombing. Some of the things I need to talk to her about can't wait until "next week" or even tomorrow - things that need a decision RIGHT NOW. Usually what happens then is I make the decision and then have to hear the excessive nagging some time later because she wasn't "included" on the decision.
I used to just play the passive husband and not do anything at all (as best I could) as I figured I'd probably get an earful no matter what path I take (i.e., 'damned if you do and damned if you don't'), but then I started taking the more assertive route and figure if she's unwilling to discuss the matter with me to h*ll with her if she starts nagging later about not "including" her.
It can become a no-win situation.
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tiredofnagging
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Reged: 05/09/08
Posts: 170
Loc: Las Vegas, NV USA
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Thank you for sharing your issues and your relevant comments regarding mine.
Memo to others: If you can't contribute in a positive manner to another person's situation, please say nothing. That's about what your comments are worth. And you know who you are...
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tiredofnagging
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Reged: 05/09/08
Posts: 170
Loc: Las Vegas, NV USA
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Now that I have some time, I wanted to respond to your concerns. Besides I have the house to myself and as we all know, freedom to express oneself.
Stoltz, I pretty much understand how you feel about the eggshell part. One minute they're one way and the next minute the opposite. Not sure if I can handle the swings any longer. It's almost as if you have to play it moment to moment and name of the game is survival. Such a shame. You sound like the kind of guy that puts it out there only to have it handed right back to you. A coin toss like you said. No way to live right? No way to "win". Yet these women have no f*cking clue how lucky they are that we devote ourselves the way we do. And when the hammer drops cause it's the last straw they don't know why......
A person can only take so much. If some things were different, I'd be gone. But, I do not want my daughter to be raised in a "broken home". I want her to be loved by both of us even if we don't love each other. The great choice, staying together for the sake of the kids....
Hell, we had a blowout the other day and she threatened to leave, and I said "you're not taking my daughter". She said that was fine with her. I was floored. Not at all what I expected to hear.
I am currently seeing a therapist who also does marriage counseling. I see her on Friday and I can't wait. Really need advice and I would recommend that you get some outside assistance so you are equipped to handle the mindf*cking you're clearly getting from your wife. We don't deserve it!
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EZmark
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Reged: 06/04/07
Posts: 292
Loc: Florida
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You three are in a rowboat in rough water. You are bailing water out as much as you can. She is drilling little holes at the other end while you try to pay no attention. When it sinks it will be women and children first. Unless you prepare your ground you are sunk.
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tiredofnagging
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Reged: 05/09/08
Posts: 170
Loc: Las Vegas, NV USA
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You got that right!!!
I'm on top of the game. Looking for pointers here and in other places. Exit strategy being perfected. Just in case. Always have outs. She gets her sh*t together, maybe not a problem.
You are indeed perceptive. Must be a male.
Sidenote: ever since she got home and had dinner, she's plopped on the couch watching TV. I did kid duty.
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Sarah1014
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Reged: 04/12/07
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My boyfriend had those issues with the X. He never knew which personality would surface. I never thought of it that way.
Good luck to you. I was married 13 years to a alcoholic borderline personality disordered person. I know what you're going through.
Again, good luck!
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malone
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Reged: 12/30/07
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[quote] Your smug, cavalier attitude suggests to me that either you have no clue about relationships or never had one. I have referred to her as a ____ on wheels simply because she acts like one. That must come as a shock to you. ;-))) [/quote]
To be honest, I don't like your tone. Because you don't agree with something I said, you resorted to put-downs about me. It speaks volumes.
Everyone here has had difficulties with their spouse, some more than others. You know absolutely nothing about my situation so why make spiteful nasty comments.
I have just re-read my comments to find out what prompted such an unnecessary response from you on a public forum. I suggest you go back and read them too. I tried to offer you some help by providing a different point of view in a constructive way, in case you hadn't considered things from her point of view.
But you seem to only want agreement with your view that your wife is a pain in the neck.
I couldn't tell you if that's the case so I'll butt out. The cousellor is a good idea for you.
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Jada
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Reged: 06/02/07
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[quote]
To be honest, I don't like your tone. Because you don't agree with something I said, you resorted to put-downs. It speaks volumes.
Everyone here has had difficulties with their spouse, some more than others. You know absolutely nothing about my situation so why make spiteful nasty comments.
I have just re-read my comments to find out what prompted such an unnecessary response from you on a public forum. I suggest you go back and read them too. I tried to offer you some help by providing a different point of view in a constructive way, in case you hadn't considered things from her point of view.
But you seem to only want agreement with your view that your wife is a pain in the neck.
I couldn't tell you if that's the case so I'll butt out. The cousellor is a good idea for you. [/quote]
You didn't say anything inappropriate or even attacking. You just didn't say what he wanted you to say. Read his history here. I think you will find that he is on the wrong board. And that he's the one who is narcissistic.
He just likes to think of himself as the victim here, which he isn't. If anything, his wife belongs on the domestic violence board to help support her through the abuse that she is going through.
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