hiddentreasure
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Reged: 06/23/08
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Hi,
Me and my ex have joint legal custody with me having physical custody. He requested in the divorce agreement that our son be placed in a free summer camp. Otherwise he would have to pay 40% and I 60%. He refuses to pay for camp. Now I found a free camp which i had to wait in line for 10 hours to secure a spot. people were lined up for two days to get there kids in this camp.
Being that the camp is free there is a waiting list for kids to get in therefore the campers that are enrolled can only miss two days and need a medical note. Now my ex sent me a certified letter in which i recieved today stating that he is going on vacation to georgia from 6/30 and returning 7/7 which jeopardizes my sons enrollment in camp. He also stated that if he doesnt hear from me by 6/26 he will pick up my son on 6/30. Now that gives me a three day response time and a 7 day notification of him planning to leave the state. I work full time therefore he needs to be in camp. He has money to go on vacation but claims he cant pay for camp. he went to florida last summer and this year he has already been to georgia and is going back. I know he has the money. does anyone have advice on what i can do? i live in ny.
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eiram
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Reged: 06/23/08
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Loc: Indiana
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you might be screwed on this. try taking the court order to the camp and show them it is a court order for visitation. this might help be your documentation. sorry and good luck.
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chatter box
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Am I right in thinking his requested time from 6/30 to 7/7 is a last minute thing? Why can't he take the vacation without your son?
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germangirl631
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I agree with the last minute thing. He got his wish for the free camp. He needs to forget about taking his son on vacation. I can't imagine the decree is written such that he's allowed to give short notice for a week's vacation, plus expect you to put him in free camp and handle it all. That's not reasonable.
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hiddentreasure
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Thanks for your replies. Yes his request was last minute. Im just afraid if i dont hand my son over can i get in trouble? My ex is entitled to 4 wks vacation but he's the one who wanted a free camp. If he wouldve paid his share and enrolled in a regular camp then there would be more flexibilty. I myself cant go anywhere because of the camp rules.
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germangirl631
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If it's written in the agreement that camp has to be free, AND that he gets 4 weeks visitation, then you probably got screwed. That's an unreasonable request when combined together. You signed this and agreed to this?
If he needs a free camp that bad, he can find one next year that will allow vacations during the summer. It's just an unreasonable combination of requests in my opinion. Plus, if the camp says your son can't return after his vacation, even if it is a court ordered vacation, then your x should have to fork over money to pay for a regular camp (which might be hard to find one with space at this time of year). I'm sorry you're in this situation. I know what it's like to feel like your back is up against a wall. I hope it works out for you.
Maybe they'll allow the week-long break if you show them your court order. Either way, I would make your ex find the camp next year. This isn't fair to you. It's his request. You don't need to do his bidding!
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germangirl631
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also, are there rules for giving notice before summer visitation? Like, you need to know by April 15th what his vacation plans are for the summer so you can plan accordingly? These parents that think they can show up a week before a long vacation drive me nuts. Like the rest of the world sits around waiting for them to make up their mind what they're going to do, and then we all need to run around and make it happen for them?? WTF?
Check your decree to see if there's wording on visitation notice. Maybe you can get off the hook there.
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Jada
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[quote]Thanks for your replies. Yes his request was last minute. Im just afraid if i dont hand my son over can i get in trouble? My ex is entitled to 4 wks vacation but he's the one who wanted a free camp. If he wouldve paid his share and enrolled in a regular camp then there would be more flexibilty. I myself cant go anywhere because of the camp rules. [/quote]
Here is what you tell your ex:
I enrolled son in a free camp per your request. He can only miss 2 days at the most. You want to take him on a vacation that is going to get him kicked out of the free camp.
I will need you to write me a check for $$$(his portion per the court order) so that he can go to this other camp that doesn't have a limit on missed days.
If you don't want to pay for the camp, I suggest that you change your plans.
It is entirely up to you.
BTW, is it too late to enroll him in a regular camp?
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hiddentreasure
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Reged: 06/23/08
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The divorce agreement entitles him to 4 wks to spend with our son. He requested that I find a free camp first but its doesnt have to be. If I couldnt find a free camp then he's required to pay 40% and I would pay 60%. There is no stipulation about how far in advance he needs to let me know but common sense would tell you that is way too short of a notice. He sprung this vacation thing on me at last minute. He refuses to pay for it. I think Im going to end up back in court. I just dont want to end up with no camp at all.
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Jada
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[quote]The divorce agreement entitles him to 4 wks to spend with our son. He requested that I find a free camp first but its doesnt have to be. If I couldnt find a free camp then he's required to pay 40% and I would pay 60%. There is no stipulation about how far in advance he needs to let me know but common sense would tell you that is way too short of a notice. He sprung this vacation thing on me at last minute. He refuses to pay for it. I think Im going to end up back in court. I just dont want to end up with no camp at all. [/quote]
It does sound like you are going to have to go to court if it isn't specifically spelled out that he pays for camp if his actions lead to child being kicked out of the free camp. And to get it to where he has to give you a reasonable amount of notice for the weeks he plans on taking.
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