stoltz
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Loc: Texas
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------------------------------------------------------------ I just saw Jada has done her infamous play by play. Now I know you're toast. This creature needs a life. ------------------------------------------------------------
She probably has you on ignore, anyway. The "ignore" feature is used by many people to facilitate the need to mask the truth. Their beliefs are all that matter and if it doesn't coincide with what is (or should be) considered right/just, they institute their ability to hide reality by placing said messenger on "ignore". The message doesn't exist, therefore, their shell is protected.
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taryn
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Reged: 05/31/07
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Loc: standing on the mountaintop! :...
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stoltz, i do not have YOU on ignore.... and i am wondering if you find tired of nagging to be accurate in his responses? do you find him to NOT be incredibly mean? and rude?
a lot of people may not like each other and my make strong comments towards posts, but for the most part PERSONAL attacks are not the norm. tired of nagging may be ignored not because of his opinions, but because of his poor way of expression. even jbar in all his 'strong' opinions does not do such incredibly rude posting. so, that's why i was wondering if you, in fact, find tiredofnaggings' post to be acceptable and not mean?
i know you have lots of strong opinions, but you dont give direct attacks on PEOPLE but more you comment on their opinions.
im sure tiredofnagging will type some nice little ditty probably with in seconds of logging on, poor man cares more about wthat toher people say about him than any real topics he may need to deal with. but i wont know what he says! because HE is on ignore, not because i dont want the truth, but because he's so MEAN.
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tiredofnagging
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Loc: Las Vegas, NV USA
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OK, I guess you are all waiting for my ditty with baited breath. It's not ready yet. Will let you know when it is. Sorry.
-------------------- This Too Shall Pass
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tiredofnagging
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Loc: Las Vegas, NV USA
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[quote]stoltz, i do not have YOU on ignore.... and i am wondering if you find tired of nagging to be accurate in his responses? do you find him to NOT be incredibly mean? and rude? [/quote]
Maybe he does but maybe he doesn't. What business is it of yours? I swear you people have obsession issues. And I'm the one with hatred problems, and a spouse that you believe is one step away from me and a meat cleaver? Or a 357 magnum, or whatever fantasies you have?
Look in a mirror, all of you, and tell me (or yourselves) that you are not hypocrites. If you can't your're all liars.
I would now like to direct what little attention you have to my post in the men's rights section of this forum. This man has had everything go wrong that could possibly go wrong, yet none of you had much to say to help this gentleman who is in dire need of a friend. Well, guess what. He has a friend in me, and anything I can do above and beyond complaining about people in general I'm gonna try to do.
Why don't you people get a life and try to do some good?
-------------------- This Too Shall Pass
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malone
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[quote] He has a friend in me, and anything I can do above and beyond complaining about people in general I'm gonna try to do.
Why don't you people get a life and try to do some good? [/quote]
Pass me a bucket. I think I'm going to be sick.
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stoltz
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Reged: 01/29/07
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Loc: Texas
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------------------------------------------------------------- i am wondering if you find tired of nagging to be accurate in his responses? do you find him to NOT be incredibly mean? and rude? -------------------------------------------------------------
Maybe - maybe not. Each individual has their own unique perspective of things, and their methods of delivery.
Personally, what I'd like to see on these boards is purposeful and meaningful dialog regarding divorce issues, but most of the time its basically crying and whining with "I'm so sorry" in response - but then this is divorce SUPPORT, so it is to be expected to a degree.
I've engaged with several people on these boards in which I had hoped would evolve into a greater discussion of the issues, but it seems just when the debate gets going the dialog ends. Even though I may appear stubborn, I too have learned from others here, which I hope has evolved my consciousness about things I hadn't thought of before. NONE of us is perfect - NONE - but understanding and communicating and most of all SHARING ideas on all issues related to divorce may help in facilitating a better environment for all of us.
-------------------- "You're never sure if the illusion is real.
You pinch yourself, but the memories are all you feel."
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Chefgirl
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Loc: Colorado, USA
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Alright, I do not post here much anymore but Chef is jumping into the nightmare of a thread!
I will start with Sophie:
First and foremost I want to express to you that NO ONE here is judging you. You came here, you posted, you asked for opinions.
Hitting someone or even attempting to hit someone is wrong. One incident in your lifetime does not make you a bad person, but refusing to admit that it was a mistake is something entirely different. Jada suggested AM classes; I highly recommend them as well. I am also going to add that you should get yourself into some victim’s counseling. Stop creating reasons not to seek help. Thinks about it this way……you are in a custody battle…you are going through a nasty divorce and are going to have prove the abuse you suffered in order to keep your children away from their father. Having a DM arrest is going to weaken your creditability, but seeking help for your anger before you have been court ordered to do so will help you. The judge will see that you are attempting to make a bad situation better. Seeking help will sway a judge much farther than words alone.
You marriage sounds awful and we all sympathize with your heartache. This forum is full of people who have gone through many of the same things you have. Stop being so defensive and listen to their advice. Sometimes the hardest thing to do is look inside of ourselves and admit guilt. Take a deep, deep look inside your self. Re-read this entire post. It is not full of judgment; it is full of tough-love. Everyone needs a dose of reality once in a while. Attempting to hit you stbx was wrong, coming here, telling your story and getting advice is the best thing for you right now.
You mentioned several times that you are pregnant and have children. When I was going through all of the pain of my divorce, I wrote myself a mantra. It may sound crazy but it really, really helped me. I posted it on my mirror and as I got ready for work each morning I would read it to myself. It helped me to stay focused on what I needed to get through each day and each step pf the divorce process, and not simply fall on the floor and succumb to self pity. I attached a portion of it below. These are words that helped me, maybe your words would be different, but the principal is the same.
I vow to look back on the past and all of my marriage with pride. I did not destroy my marriage and my relationship with him alone. Whatever good times I had, or bad times I suffered helped to shape me into the person I am today, and the better person I will be tomorrow.
My last vow to myself is to first and foremost remember that I am a mother. That my pain and suffering should not reflect on her life at all. I vow that when my daughter becomes an adult, and reflects on this time period in her own life, she will be proud of the way I handled myself.
Finally Sophie, I want to reiterate to you that this forum can be your lifeline. We are all standing in line ready to support you through the pain and fear that the future holds for you. You may not always like the advice that has been given, but it is always given with the best intentions.
And now I move on to TiredOfNagging. Actually, I am not going to address my comments to him, but to every person here who has responded to him.
This poster seems to thrive on chaos and drama, more than thrive actually; he seems to feed off of it. Every time he posts, someone responds, and he keeps coming back. It is a vicious cycle and it needs to stop. Responding to his posts only feeds his ego.
Arguing with some people is like standing in front of an ocean and yelling at the waves to stop! It just does not work. Bow out, walk away, bite your tongue, whatever, but do not feed into his toxins.
This has been a long post and I am stepping off of my soapbox now! Cheffie
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taryn
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Reged: 05/31/07
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>>>>>>>>>>> Personally, what I'd like to see on these boards is purposeful and meaningful dialog regarding divorce issues, but most of the time its basically crying and whining with "I'm so sorry" in response - but then this is divorce SUPPORT, so it is to be expected to a degree. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
wow. youre right i TOTALLY do the 'im so sorry' thing. but when i do, its because i AM so sorry! otherwise i dont put that.
some whining and complaining is really to be expected. but i think there are lots and lots of valid concerns, worries, and questions put out here and equally good responses. i actually enjoy reading the various views on the topics. when people have varying opinions and they are strong opinions it gives all the readers a chance to think things through from different angles. numberous times ive reconsidered my view once another aspect is brought up.
thanks for answering my question. and have a nice weekend.
(im about to go post a whiney thread on the dating forum...LOL....maybe i wont though.... ;) )
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sophie_1008
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Reged: 06/16/08
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All right to everyone who has or has not been supportive with me thank you anyway. I have answers for ya'll. I am going to court on my battery case and prosecutor has in fact offered me a diversion which I am accepting. This means I am like pleading guilty, going to a anger management domestic violence program for 90 days and the court will drop the charges until then unless I violate and not comply. As for my children I can move with my husbands consent which I am real close to getting. All I need is a letter from him stating that he will let me move and wait the legal time for me to file and come to an agreement for long distance visitations.
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gigi
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When you go to the anger management classes, pay close attention. You will find out things to change about yourself and also characteristics to look for (or look OUT for) in your next relationship.
Some people find that the volatile way of life is really interesting and fun. I know you don't think that way now, when things have come to a head, but here's the problem, too many women who have gotten used to living with all the uproar will crave stability, find a stable relationship and then get bored with it FAST. The reason is that even though they crave stability and safety and protection, they don't know the whole package comes with less emotional ups & downs... less fun as well as less upset.
If you do some real soul searching during the classes and examine that things you do & don't like, figure out the characteristics that you would find fun and how to distinguish them from the dangerous characteristics, you'll have a better chance of finding someone for your next relationship that you can have fun times with, where it won't have such a likelihood of turning bad.
Think of emotions like a pendulum. If you swing really high on the up side, you'll also swing really high on the down side. Evening it out is not necessarily an option, becasue you will find it boring to live with highs that are not so high. The way to solve it, the right option... is to figure out things to substitute for your LOW swing behaviors. And to recognize a guy who also has those kinds of substitutions.
Maybe it's physical activity to exhaust yourself, to beat a punching bag rather than your loved ones, to take a jog and get away for a minute to clear your head and think. Looking for a GOOD substitute behavior for the high swing on the bad side is a smart idea... because if you don't have an advance plan on what to substitute, it's just too easy to find a NEW wrong thing to substitute for it... drinking, gambling, cheating... yep, they're not violent, but they'll just lead to a whole new set of problems... over-spending, refusing to talk, becoming manipulative... a LITTLE better but still not a good risk for long term happiness.
If you spend some time thinking this through, you'll find some things to do for yourself when you're in a high-energy bad mood, that will not be self-destructive. AND you'll figure out how to recognize a man who can swing with your high energy self and NOT have his own negative swings be destructive either!
Pay attention to the class and don't take it as a horrid chore that is going to interfere with your life, and you'll have a great life ahead of you!
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