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      #217289 - 07/06/08 05:57 PM (76.116.10.252)
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Hi,
I have had joint custody with my daughter's dad since mid 2002. We had joint legal and physical with time split about 50/50. In the last two years he has had a bad problem with drugs...in 2006 he became addicted to oxycontin, among other things, but that was his main addiction. I was not aware the he was on this until he told me himself and voluntarily sent himself to rehab. I thought it was a good thing that he took it upon himself to get help. He went into rehab for a few months and when he came out he was doing great...looked healthy, almost like a different person. When he first came out he stayed with a family friend, and then he came to stay with me temporarily because we were going to help each other out financially until he could find a new apartment. Well it sounded good in theory, but he ended up back on drugs (pills, weed, coke, who knows what else). I suspected it for a few reasons but needed to find some kind of proof, so I cleaned the room he slept in (my living room) and found dozens or more of empty drug bags :o Right on the couch our daughter plays on and watches TV on (thank god they didn't have the actual drugs in them!). So the next day I made him leave and went to file for sole custody and requested that he take a drug test.

So we went to court last month. The way the judge worked it was she heard both sides, denied my request for sole, but only pending the results of his drug test. She would reconsider my motion if he failed. Well, he DID fail. So we were rescheduled to go back to court, which is in two days.

I know it is hard to get sole custody, but I at least want to have full physical with his visitations restricted and supervised, until he can go through some kind of drug counseling for a certain amount of time. I am concerned that if she is with only him by himself, he could 1) have drugs on him and get arrested with her there, which would not be a good experience for her; 2) he apparently is on more than one drug considering the bags I found, and I'm sure his drug test shows what he has been on - who knows if he could OD in her presence or pass out, etc.? 3) it affects his parenting and ability to provide care....the list really goes on I guess.

I am just curious of anyone's insight on how a judge might rule on this. She knows he has already been in rehab before, he admitted it in court. So it's not like he just went out one or two times with his friends on his own time and was using them 'recreationally' (not that it's really any better). I would like to hear of anyone's knowledge or experiences regarding a situation like this. I really do think it is best that I have sole custody while he gets some kind of treatment (again) and passes so many drug tests, then later we'd work on more visitation, etc. I would be ok with it though if the judge insisted on keeping joint legal and just restricting his visitation and making it supervised. As long as she is with me physically for the majority of the time she would be safe and not subjected to that environment.


Also, do you think if I allowed one overnight SUPERVISED visitation (with his mom present, who I trust on this issue) the judge would think that was too liberal? I was thinking of it but have not decided yet. Another question is - say I let our daughter go sleepover her Grandmother's for a night (his mom). Is her dad allowed to visit her there on his own time, or would that go against the order?


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Re: custody modification/drug abuse [Re: newearth]
      #217304 - 07/06/08 07:06 PM (71.57.126.172)
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I have a bipolar drug addict ex. He was suppose to have 4 hours during the week and from 10 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. on Sunday but because he never cooperated with the random drug testing (which he agreed to in the custody agreement) he was moved to supervised visitation via the county family services center. He hasn't yet contacted them for their intake interview so he hasn't seen them in 2 months. I was adamant that he never have overnights with the kids as that's when he really abused his drug. I had enough proof of his drug use (rehab invoices, his own statements to the psychological evaluator, subpoenaed receipts from the drug store, etc.) that when he settled, he went along with the request because he knew that a judge would grant it anyways.

He's currently in the hospital in Michigan after totalling his car. The tox screen came back positive for his drug of choice.

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Re: custody modification/drug abuse [Re: ILMom]
      #217309 - 07/06/08 07:11 PM (76.116.10.252)
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[quote]I have a bipolar drug addict ex. He was suppose to have 4 hours during the week and from 10 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. on Sunday but because he never cooperated with the random drug testing (which he agreed to in the custody agreement) he was moved to supervised visitation via the county family services center. He hasn't yet contacted them for their intake interview so he hasn't seen them in 2 months. I was adamant that he never have overnights with the kids as that's when he really abused his drug. I had enough proof of his drug use (rehab invoices, his own statements to the psychological evaluator, subpoenaed receipts from the drug store, etc.) that when he settled, he went along with the request because he knew that a judge would grant it anyways.

He's currently in the hospital in Michigan after totalling his car. The tox screen came back positive for his drug of choice.

You can PM me with any questions. [/quote]

Hey, I think I've seen you on another custody forum..at least that person had the same situation as you do, I remember the part about how you had the rehab records and I think I asked how you got them.

So for you, he was given less visitation time, but unsupervised at first? THEN when he wasn't showing up for drug tests, it was made supervised? Sometimes I just don't understand the courts...it seems a lot of times they are too lenient when it comes to drug abuse.

My problem is we have 50/50 now and I just hope the judge won't make us keep that way so long as he is on drugs...

Edited by newearth (07/06/08 07:12 PM)


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Re: custody modification/drug abuse [Re: newearth]
      #217325 - 07/06/08 09:04 PM (69.115.64.195)
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If he shows up under the influence of drugs/alcohol, you do not have to let him pick up your child. And you wouldn't be in contempt for refusing to let him take her. Your child's safety comes first.

And if he does show up under the influence, call the cops. He probably shouldn't be driving, either. And you will documentation of your reason for refusing his parenting time.


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Re: custody modification/drug abuse [Re: newearth]
      #217340 - 07/06/08 09:44 PM (67.184.99.218)
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I dealt with an alcoholic ex but had some restricted visitations with self executing wording. It allowed the court to say that he could "earn" unsupervised visits by being clean.

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Re: custody modification/drug abuse [Re: newearth]
      #217368 - 07/07/08 12:07 AM (71.57.126.172)
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I thought your post sounded familiar as well. :)

You are correct, he was given less visitation time and had to pass drug tests in order to get overnights and more time(actually he agreed to it in the settlement because that's what the evaluator recommended. He's very creepy to be around not to mention dangerous.)

Just start documenting all your prrof. I had a 4" binder I gave the court-ordered psychologist with proof. She just sighe and said it wasn't the first time she had received a binder like that! (That was one of the best things I did in the whole divorce along with getting the order of protectino.)


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Re: custody modification/drug abuse [Re: ILMom]
      #217417 - 07/07/08 09:58 AM (12.161.16.18)
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So I guess it is likely the judge will at least limit his visitation until he can start passing drug tests? I'm just so nervous about tomorrow...court is tomorrow. I mean I guess the judge is gonna be pissed at him for failing the test but I am just afraid she'll be too lenient. Maybe I'm just being negative :(

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Re: custody modification/drug abuse [Re: newearth]
      #217717 - 07/08/08 01:22 PM (12.161.16.18)
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We had court today - he didn't show up and I pretty much got what I asked for.

We keep joint legal, I have primary physical. His visitation, supervised by his mom or other family member, starting this weekend: Saturday to Sunday overnight, home to me by 8pm Sunday. The following weekend, only Sunday from 2pm to 8pm. Rotating every other weekend, supervised. That is pretty much all that is in the order. So this is how it will be until one of us goes back to court to change it. I am hoping between now and then we can come to a new agreement and go back a few months from now, after he's shown he went to some drug counseling and passes some drug tests or something.


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Re: custody modification/drug abuse [Re: newearth]
      #217754 - 07/08/08 02:58 PM (65.209.129.154)
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Good outcome. Just be very realistic about what supervised means when it is a family member. No matter how much you like them, blood is stronger and they will not be the best supervisors. Most people on here that have this situation find that the family starts to flake out and not want to be involved like this.

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Re: custody modification/drug abuse [Re: jersey girl]
      #218212 - 07/10/08 09:04 AM (12.161.16.18)
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Even though his official visitation is every other weekend, Sat. to Sunday, then alternate weekends just Sunday, I can allow more visitation if I want to right? Like if she goes over to eat dinner with his mom or something, he's allowed to happen to be there, I would think. Because I want to allow stuff like that but not if I'd get in trouble for it. There is nothing in our order saying I can't.

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