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jersey girl
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Re: Please help! Pregnant and seeking divorce [Re: Starion]
      #228227 - 08/25/08 04:26 PM (65.209.129.154)
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honeymoon,

Please don't read these posts and shut down. Read them and understand that if we are reacting this way - what do you think a judge who HAS seen and heard it all, will react?

The judge will do that math. They will know that you got pregnant AFTER he moved out. His legal troubles will hurt him in court. But he is not guilty of child abuse because he is a drunk or a wife beater. I know that doesn't seem right, but it is the innocent until proven guilty thing.

The only thing you can control in a divorce are your actions and your credibility. Understand the strikes against you and work with a lawyer to get a case lined up that protects you and the unborn child.


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Re: Please help! Pregnant and seeking divorce [Re: Starion]
      #228244 - 08/25/08 06:32 PM (69.115.64.195)
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[quote]Ummm - an observance. He moved out March 7th because he struck you and you are 5 months pregnant. Sorry - I think you will have a hard time convincing the court you feel he is and will be a danger to the child as you still were having sex with him - unless you can prove more recent violence towards you and get a restraining order. [/quote]

He left on 3/7, it is now 8/25 which is roughly FIVE MONTHS after he moved out and she is 5 months pregnant.

Who says she had sex with him after he moved out? You? I don't know about you, but when I was pregnant, I said I was 5 months pregnant, even if I was 5 1/2 months pregnant. Looks to me like she was already pregnant when he left. She just may not have known about it at that time.


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Re: Please help! Pregnant and seeking divorce [Re: honeymoonsover]
      #228300 - 08/26/08 12:54 AM (24.8.144.220)
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"I have also been wondering if it would be better to not file for divorce. That was he couldn't dictate how often he sees our child if we have not filed for divorce...I do not feel that he would ever file for divorce. He would just keep things as they are now. Do you have any further insight?"

Valid observation. Letting sleeping dogs lie is often a good way to go. I would encourage you to have a restraining order in place in case he wakes up.


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Re: Please help! Pregnant and seeking divorce [Re: KGrow]
      #228302 - 08/26/08 01:34 AM (74.236.7.11)
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I'll concede that Jada. But. Damn close and these days they will know/calculate within a week of conception once born AND - since then no documented/filed issues or complaints ? A good lawyer will jump on that and rip and her chance of keeping the father away from the child is next to nill. If she tries, he, the father, may benefit with more visitation if he wants it. The courts don't like any parent trying to limit visitation - at least IMO. IMO anything she does to exclude the father is very risky - especially since she wants to pursue CS as I read this.

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Re: Please help! Pregnant and seeking divorce [Re: Starion]
      #228303 - 08/26/08 01:42 AM (74.236.7.11)
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Kid better be his too. He'll have an idea based on "when".

This could get ugly.

She needs to Lawyer up now and start gathering bullets. IMHO we already can tell which way his family is going so he has at least some support system in place. She needs to start gathering hers - friends "heresay" isn't going to cut it in court.

Edited by Starion (08/26/08 01:44 AM)


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Re: Please help! Pregnant and seeking divorce [Re: Starion]
      #228310 - 08/26/08 06:12 AM (69.115.64.195)
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[quote]Kid better be his too. He'll have an idea based on "when".

This could get ugly.

She needs to Lawyer up now and start gathering bullets. IMHO we already can tell which way his family is going so he has at least some support system in place. She needs to start gathering hers - friends "heresay" isn't going to cut it in court. [/quote]

It isn't hearsay when the friends WITNESSED her stbx hitting her.

If he isn't the father, then she has nothing to worry about having an abusive jerk around her baby.


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Re: Please help! Pregnant and seeking divorce [Re: Starion]
      #228311 - 08/26/08 06:21 AM (69.115.64.195)
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[quote]I'll concede that Jada. But. Damn close and these days they will know/calculate within a week of conception once born AND - since then no documented/filed issues or complaints ? [/quote]

He has been convicted of assault. Courts are smart enough to recognize that it takes some victims of DV longer to break away.

BTW, the doctors changed the due date of my oldest to 12 days earlier based on the 20 week ultrasound. He was born 2 days before the original due date. And according to my pediatrician he didn't have the look of a "overdue" baby.

And any good lawyer would jump on the fact that there have been no new incidents because he is in jail and she left him to protect herself and her baby.

He's been convicted of assaulting her. He has a very weak case. She has witnesses to him hitting her. She has a very strong case.

But she isn't going to be able to stop visits with baby since nothing he has done has been directed at children. The most she can hope for is limited visitation based on the age of the baby.

And moving to a different state is going to insure that the baby will be having long periods of time alone with this abusive person. Probably not right away, but when the baby is older. It's easier to protect a child when the visits aren't in big chunks of time, like long-distance parenting plans involve.


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Re: Please help! Pregnant and seeking divorce [Re: honeymoonsover]
      #229475 - 09/02/08 12:21 AM (68.186.185.0)
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I went through the same thing..The only thing is, I live in the state of Al. While I was 5 months pregnant with our second I decided that I wanted out. I was told by my attrny that I could move out of state. That I could take our 1st child and move to another state. As long as there were no papers filed, We both had equal rights to take the child where ever we wanted. Until the papers where finalized, I could take my daughter where ever I wanted, however, I could not keep him from her either. I would have to prove that the father was unfit in order to keep him away. Not having those issues I chose to stay.. After my son was a year old, we seperated. I then met my new husband and became pregnant with his child before my divorce was final. I was told by my attrny that I would not recieve a divorce until after the baby was born and had to have a paternity test to prove that my ex was not the father and that my fiance was the father. Once the baby was born, I did give him his dad's last name. However in the hospital he was know as baby-my last name. On the bc it has his real name. So you can name the baby whatever you want. It looks better and is alot easier in the long run to have the baby have the father's last name. More so if child support becomes an issue later. If you take the baby away from the dad and don't give it his name, it looks bad on you. You have to prove that you are the 'better' parent and want your child to have a relationship with it's father, but that his actions and history prove that he may not be the ideal father figure for your child. But the courts are the ones that decide that. In my state a judge will not issue a divorce to a pregnant woman because they do not want to 'bastardize' a child and alot of states require that you file for divorce in the same county that you were married unless you both live in a different place. He can't make you move back, but unless you can prove that he is unfit, he will have visitation. It will be harder if you try to move after the baby is born and the divorce and custody is final, because you have to give 45 days notice in writing by certified mail to your ex and he would have 30 days to notify the court and then there would be a hearing and at that point the judge could make you stay in the same town. Also, if you move before the baby is born and the divorce is final, most likely the only issue you would have about visitation other than the obvious is you would have to meet the father half way each time. Also, if the father can prove that he is paying all the traveling exspenses, then the courts could reduce his C.S.. Call any attrny and tell them your issues and ask them what you can and can't do. It shouldn't cost you anything for the inital call or meeting. At least you will be more informed. Call an attrny were you live now and where you want to move. Each state has differnet laws and regulations. But as long as there is no complaint filed as of now, you are free to move where ever you wish.

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Re: Please help! Pregnant and seeking divorce [Re: honeymoonsover]
      #230678 - 09/09/08 09:19 PM (24.27.230.70)
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This is tricky....

Did you have the previous abuse on file? Meaning, did you call the cops on him? Were there any pictures taken of you and your injuries (if any)? If he has never been arrested for spousal abuse its going to be hard to prove and gain full custody. HOWEVER if you can show/prove somehow that he's an alcoholic then its unlikely anyone would give a child to him.
If you can establish residency in another state and prove you're on your feet and can support the baby...that you are stable, etc. That would only help your situation.
I found this link on a search, it talks about residency, when the spouses are in different states... maybe it will help? http://document-do-it-yourself-service.com/faqs.html#different-states


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