hurtkat
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OK - I'm sure most of you were following CityGirl's thread called "what's wrong with me?" (NOTHING by the way!) and there was a lot of talk about a book: "Why Men Love Bitches."
So a lot of the things that were being said hit closer to home than I would like to admit, and I went out to buy the book. Some of it was "dead-on-balls accurate" when it came to describing what went wrong with us. And you all know that I keep searching and searching for the "Why?" So I admit it - I DID begin to mother him and I started to nag (even though I never did before). I figured, "He works so much and he doesn't eat right or sleep at all... maybe if I get him to eat better and take some vitamins, he'll feel better." And of course, if he feels better, he'll spend some better time with me, right?
Nope! Totally wrong! It's exactly what started to kill things. And the harder I tried, the worse it got. So now I'm thinking that there is no WAY we can recover this (which is of course all that I really want to do), but I still have this (unrealistic) hope inside that won't go away. And the hope is killing me, so I decide to kill the hope...
So I send what I call "the text message of death" (very dramatic , I know). It had been over a month since we had talked, even though he knows that I really want to hear from him. So I send the following message:
"I'm sorry that you are incapable of appreciating me. Too bad. Have a good life."
Now I fully expect to never hear from him after that, and yes, I admit that "have a good life" is corny. =) But several hours later, I get a message back: "I'm sorry that I worked so much the last two weeks that I don't even have the energy to call my own mother." Now I should note - he never talked to his mom much over the years we were together either (like once every one or two months). So I manage to use my new-found inner bi#ch to keep my cool, and I write:
"Appreciation has nothing to do with how much you work."
Now, I'm SURE that's the end of it. But nooooooo, he has to call. He leaves a message apologizing for sending the @$$-hole-ish text, but he says he's really confused because he didn't think we were at the point of being "hostile," even though we haven't talked "in a while."
WTF??? The inner bi#ch collapses, and I break down and call him back about 4 hours later. And against my better judgement, I try to talk to him, even though I can tell that he's probably drunk (yes, you call all now call me dumb). We have a completely nonsense-ical conversation, resolve nothing, and to make matters worse, I know he didn't understand ANYTHING I was trying to say. He got some skewed view that I was calling him a "bad person" and that I hated him. He also kept saying that he "just doesn't care about anything anymore" and that "there's no point."
So now what? I know that he's depressed, but I worry that he may hurt himself (even though I asked directly if he was planning on it and he said no). I just don't like that he's twisted what I was trying to tell him...
Yeah, I guess I'm not a very good [censored] yet...
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juliacinaz
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I have two words of advice for you.
NO CONTACT.
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hurtkat
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dammit.
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abbysfv
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I agree with Juliacinaz, time for No Contact.
I have read the other thread and was intrigued by the book, but then I thought, isn't that a high price to pay? Becoming a bitc# just to get someone to <i>love</i> you? What's wrong with me being nice? Sounds like a lot of work and then I would probably end up going back to my too nice self again anyway.
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hurtkat
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I think it's more about standing up for yourself when necessary. We put up with a lot of crap because we are "afraid" of the other half thinking bad about us. But in reality, no one wants to be with a (complete) pushover.
My guy specifically said he wishes I had "put him in his place" more often when he was "treating me badly." (I don't think he ever treated me badly, just not as amazingly as he used to.)
Any guys care to weigh in on this???
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taryn
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i SO have to get this book.
i went last week and...figures! i couldnt rmember what it was called just what it was about!
ARUGH!
i KNOW i can be a [censored]! i jus tknow it.
LOL i know i can be when i dont care! now to do it when i do!
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Vanessagi66
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I think you bought the wrong book. You should have bought "The Five Love Languages" by Gary Chapman. You guys had a total lack of communication and instead of approaching the situation with understanding, you began to suffocate which is what all men love. You didn't know each other's love languages. But Good luck to you, I guess.
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CityGirl
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okay, here's what you do. Remove the phone. Lock it in a cabinet. Throw the key out into the yard (where at my house mosquitos reign) where it will take hours for you to find it. That way, the next time you think you have to talk to him, four hours of looking for the key in the yard later, you'll be too mad to want to bother with the guy! LOL Or, you could find an old picture of him and either set it on fire or snip it into tiny little itty pieces! Yeah, I like those ideas!!
He isn't going to realize what an ass he's been and come crawling back begging for forgiveness and promising to change. And neither is mine. Sounds like they both think way too much of themselves and not enough about anyone else. It is high time all of us thought much much more of ourselves!!! The men on here too!!! I know a lot of the men have been through the very same thing, where the woman is wigging out. But, there is a certain line that once they cross it, they're not coming back. And it just makes you look like a wuss to try and convince them otherwise. SAY NO TO WUSSINESS!!!!! That's my new motto. SNTW!!!!! SNTW!!!!!!!
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NHTom
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It sounds like communication that would have helped a long time ago.
Kind communication is good - and preferable. However, sometimes in an intimate relationship stronger terms and tactics need to be employed.
We probably would have been helped by having a screaming match now and then. We were both conflict averse. How can there be passion without there ever being anger?
If you can't be strong without acting the b!tch then you have to work with what you have.
BTW: I'm perfect. :)
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HardKnox
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[quote] What's wrong with me being nice? [/quote]
Nothing.
And I've got to tell you, it really troubles me to continually read on this forum that you women have decided you to have to "become a b!tch" in order to have a man that loves and respects you. That makes no farking sense at all. By that logic, I should "become an ass-hole" in order in order to have a woman that loves and respects me. Should I smack her around a little bit too? Call her a "dumb c*unt"?
(Yes, now everybody can pile on and say "you're an ass-hole already, HK".)
Becoming a b!tch isn't going to solve anything at all. It's just going to get you a man WORSE THAN THE ONE YOU HAD BEFORE.
Any man on this forum who is seeking a b!tch, please speak up.
(Not ME, I mean a FEMALE b!tch.)
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