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twicebit
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marital debt
      #9430 - 06/07/06 08:23 PM (66.57.109.193)
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I had been married for 13 years to my second husband, 6 years younger than me. We have bought 3 houses and lived a comfortable life. Trips, new cars and we spent most of our together. He had never let me start a retirement plan because he said I was too old. I am now 51 years old. He always said that his retirement was ours. We had just purchased our third house and made the first payment on December 2005 and he walked out on me the 17th of December. He had started calling his girlfiend on Thanksgiving on his cell phone(while his parents were here for the holidays.) On December 10th, he called her again that night and the next day he informed his son that lived with us and his parents that he was asking me for a Divorce after the first of the year. I knew he was acting funny and I asked what was wrong and he said he was not happy. This was news to me. The following Saturday, he had switched checking accounts, changed his deposits, talked to an attorney and rented a place within 1 week. The private eye I hired started watching him the following week. The PI caught him at her house after work at 11:30 PM. The cell phone records show him calling her at work before he got off etc. He is still claiming he is innocent. He has not helped me pay the house payment and his attorney has told not to. I am really struggling because our debt was based on 2 incomes. My attorney said for me to get anything out of him, I will probably have to sue. His girlfriend is divorced and works with him and has had affairs with 5 different guys on the job, one lasted 7 1/2 years and they were both married to different people and during this time she had 2 kids. What would entice a man to give up everything he had for a woman of this nature? What is the odds of it working out for them? I don't want him but I just don't understand and I am going to counseling, taking Lexopro and Amien to sleep. I have lost 38 pounds and it is just so hard to hold my head and know it will work out for me. How long is it going to take for me to accept the hurt and feeling so stupid and not see this coming? Will I ever be able to trust again. He was my knight in shining armor. I sure that there is nothing that she has done that I didn't. Now I hear they are looking at house plans to build on a lot that she got out of her only marriage. Everyone is shocked. I really don't know how to handle this. I'm trying but it is killing me inside. Everyone says it will get better,for me to get out and meet someone. I am out in the community but when you love someone and he left you like you had Aids, how can anyone expect you to just start another relaionship so easy. I was married the first time to my childhood sweetheart for 20 years and left him because of drug abuse. I just have not had very good luck at picking men. Both took me for granted because they knew my values. I guess there is just no need for good girls anymore in this world. Does anyone else feel the same way?

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Re: marital debt [Re: twicebit]
      #9455 - 06/08/06 10:04 AM (24.8.182.151)
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It sounds like you are doing everything right with regards to protecting your legal rights through this divorce. It takes time to process it all. Especially so for the person who has been left.

You should bear in mind that adultry is not a crime. In almost all states, neither of you needs a reason to request divorce. There's no need to spend money on a PI to establish his "guilt".


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Re: marital debt [Re: KGrow]
      #9534 - 06/08/06 09:16 PM (66.57.109.193)
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North Carolina is a no-fault divorce state. After 1 year separation either spouse can obtain a divorce. I have 3 years to bring suit against them for adultery and Aleination of Affection. I have spoken to another attorney to see if I had a chance at a lawsuit and she said circumstantial evidence was there and you do not have to prove sexual relations in aleination. She said I definitely have emotional distress and I could possibly win a judgement against her. The only thing is that my husband does not have any assets. We enjoyed life and he has 2 credit cards that he is primary on and I was authorized user on those and they have pretty big balances. I may have to forfeit his Pension and 401 in exchange for these cards if he will agree to pay these debts. On the other hand, the house she lives in is in her parents name and I can't touch that. I could win a judgement and place it on their house after they build but her parents are loaded and the newlyweds may pay cash. Therefore. the judgement could stay on the house indefinitely and I would have to update it every 7 to 10 years with a chance I would never get paid. So here I am, tossed to the curb again and will end up selling my new house, walking away with no retirement and maybe a little alimony for 1/2 of the total years we were married. We do not have any kids, my kids are grown and married so that's good and when the divorce is final, I am going to go back to my maiden name. I am active in the community and never intend to be associated with him or give him any credit for my future acheivements. I am still hurt and don't understand how this happened. I really trusted him.
The PI was after he left and you are right. It was expensive but worth it. Will it help? Who knows. It seems like the legal system protects the guilty ones not the ones that are have been wronged. Criminal and civil cases seem to work the same. All the attorneys need is a loophole. Don't know how some people sleep at night knowing what they have helped some spouses get away with all the deceit and hurt they inflict on the ones left in the cold.

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Re: marital debt [Re: twicebit]
      #9554 - 06/09/06 11:34 AM (141.131.3.22)
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You're looking to sue his girlfriend for stealing your husband? That strikes me as good material for Jerry Springer. I'd definitely get a second legal opinion before you invest too much in that.

I do notice that North Carolina still has baroque alimony statues in force. It looks like he looses grounds for collecting alimony if you can demonstrate infidelity. It has to be something that occurred prior to the separation date though.


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Re: marital debt [Re: KGrow]
      #9636 - 06/10/06 01:53 AM (66.57.109.193)
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I feel like I am justified in receiving some kind of compensation for what they have both put me through. He was married, yes but she knew he was. She is a habitual runaround and evidently he is too. People should not be able to keep hurting other people without some kind of responsibility for the hurt they have caused. I don't feel this is a Jerry Springer situation and I don't understand why you could say something like that. This has been and still is a very hard time for me. You can't turn love off like a light switch or at least, I can't. He is not trying to get alimony from me. He doesn't want to pay me alimony. He makes 2 1/2 times more than I make a year. The living standards we had have been affected also. He walked out on his 16 year old son and left him with me from 12/17/05 to 3/30/06 while he running around with his girlfriend. Could you leave your son with his stepmom at Christmas and at a time she was devastated too. You don't believe that they should be responsible for their actions at all? I have wasted 13 years on a man that turned out to be everything he said he wasn't and nothing he said he was. I am leaving this marriage with no retirement at all after he told me time after time and I quote "My money is our money." He had this planned when we sold our last house. He had no intention of staying with me after the new house was purchased. He asked me to leave and let him have the new house because he said I couldn't afford it. He even had a buyer for my Corvette. All he was concerned about was getting the equity out of our old house so he would not have to divide it with me. He paid off 4 of his credit cards with the proceeds and I did not have a clue that I was being manipulated and played for a fool. Do I know how long this affair went on? No, I don't. But you tell me, with their past history, do you think they had any morals about running around? I don't think so. What were they saving? I don't want him back, trust me. I have enough respect for myself than that but after repeated patterns, people should realize they can't go around hurting people and destroying lives at the drop of a hat and for their own selfish needs. Some people take marriage as a commitment not as a layover until the next prospect comes along. She did not steal my husband. They have worked together for 8 years. He just got his turn. Remember, he was the fifth guy she has been with at work. Seven and 1/2 years with another married man while she was married, should tell you something about her. How do I know that? The guy's wife has told me about it. She found out about their affair but her husband did not walk out on her. My husband talked about this girl like she was a dog and told me the guys she had been with at work. Other people that work there have also told me about her. She is the talk of the plant. I thought my husband had more respect for himself that this too. You think you know someone and you really don't. So they deserve each other but I deserve something too. You can't make someone love you but you can show him or her that what they have done to someone has its consequences. Could I win or lose? Will the lawsuit cost them their jobs? Since both of them are denying their companionship at work, the lawsuit may be interesting. Of course, if this happens, there goes my alimony. But they will lose alot too. I'll survive somehow. The house will have to be sold but I already know that. I have an attorney's opinion that handles this type of lawsuits and she feels confident on the emotional distress I have suffered. I'm sorry if I sound bitter, but I am still very hurt and devastated. My husband and the girlfriend have been on 3 trips in the last month on his motorcycle. So this is hard to accept too. There has been no papers signed at all with the attorneys. We had 1 mediation and that was when his attorney found out about the girlfriend so nothing has been agreed on or signed. Do you understand now why I feel this way?

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