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Re: Due process is alive and well int Texas
      04/29/08 05:16 AM (68.88.76.99)
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Not saying it was or wasn't justified but just how many laws did someone or everyone need to brake before the actions taken would be ok.
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You know, people talk so much about how all of this was done for the "good of the children", but I have come to see it in just the opposite light: the conditions under which they lived in the FLDS community were, in my view, actually more for their real good, than the conditions they are finding themselves in with the foster parents with whom they live now.

What do I mean?

1. In the religious community, they had no TV's or computer games. Now they will see the standard 5000 murders before they are twelve, learn how to use guns and knives and that there are people who hate each other and, apparently, are supposed to. The computer games will train them to "hone their reflexes" to use against that "pig" who will inevitably, someday, try to grab their "stash"

2. In the community they learned only "the three R's" plus respectful, religious songs and music. No doubt they will, now, soon be hearing --and even learning--the same vile "rap" music which daily accosts my own ears, and which I believe must be from Hell. Every white man in this music is a "honky muh-fuh"; every female is a "ho"; every black man is a "nigguh"; and every policeman is a "pig" who must be "offed".

3. In the community they learned real work, and useful arts and crafts. Now they will be learning how to "just say no to drugs", how to use condoms, and how to use computers (to watch pornography). They will learn about all of the wonderful accomplishments of people in this country to whom they can relate no more than they could to a martian and, probably, how the founders of their faith were likely only sex-crazed old men, heretics and charlatans. Oh yes, don't forget! They will learn the joys of the use of drugs, alcohol and premarital sex, in addition to how to become a money-mad American consumer, completely controlled and brainwashed by American marketing companies, and even international powers, who try every way possible to control the minds and opinions of Americans through the ever-present media.

4. They will learn, contrary to their own church law prohibiting divorce and, instead, teaching that they will be with their families not only for as long as they live on this earth, but also for Eternity in Heaven, that they will, rather, be with their spouse (and probably children as well) only on this earth and then only until the spouse chooses to divorce them, split up the family, and grab all of their hard earned assets they can--and to do their own spouses likewise, if given the opportunity.

I ask you, Is being placed in a situation like this REALLY more "in the best interests of the children" than to allow them to stay with their real fathers and mothers?

The law be damned!

Edited by jbar (04/29/08 05:52 AM)

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