I think you misread my post. I have been working very hard to keep my family intact and meant every word of my marriage vows when I said them as I do now. But yea, unhappy, parents make unhappy kids. Incidently, I've never known a selfish person that had the slightest clue what happiness meant. It's really easy to just sit back and blame the "immoral" "the liberals" "the conservatives" for the sad state of affairs. No need to better ourselves anymore its all their fault. You can show what you want to your kids, but I want to show my kids that happiness is a choice, that doing the right thing and hard work are the only ways to get there, and that they have the skills to achieve it and blaming the rest of the world is just a distraction to that end.