I'm sure your right. I checked on the order last year, trying to get a copy of any other order before that and there was NONE as the divorce decree was the order entered before. I rechecked all the papers and it simply states visitation order for extended parenting time summer of 2007. It is very specific as to dates...June 8th 2007 started visitation, very specific as to 4 weeks for summer of 2007. That is the ONLY order on file beyond the divorce decree...it goes on to state that any future extended parenting time will be mediated by FOC, the divorce decree states the same thing. If he isn't blowing smoke then he didn't talk to someone in regards to our particular case and just asked a general question of what happens if, that's what I will assume until I hear otherwise. I don't see how I could be forced to send child for specific dates when there is no court order and that is one thing I know my attorney would advise against...if there isn't a court order to send him, then there obviously isn't one stating he has to RETURN him either. I have to contact FOC this week anyhow in regards to changing my address but I really didn't want to be the one to start the mediation. I just wondered if anybody else ever heard of such a thing...visitation dates by default without an order?