Answerguy, I think this was an interesting read...it sounds like the court system worked. Gigi, I agree when you say that when someone is whining about injustice it's often due to something else that they did or left out. Take my 2nd ex for example. I moved out of state with the children (got permission from first ex to move with his 1 child) and 2nd ex whom I was still married to at the time was supposed to finish school while I set up house and got established in job then move down 1 year later. He helped load up u-haul and 2 weeks later brought kids down to me. He only came down once and he filed for divorce 6 months later. He was not active with the kids before we left and not only wouldn't take them to their activities if I was working or at school but wouldn't do simple tasks like make them dinner (unless I compensated him sexually for it). He still does not call the kids on a regular basis, does not take any interest in his sons reoccurring medical issues (including several surgeries), continues to abuse the children during the short times that he does have them and skipped the last scheduled visitation...YET, he tells me that he hates me for taking the kids away from him and that he will never forgive me for taking the kids away from him.