I do see your point there and I know all of this is very true.Maybe I havnt seen it because I have been so busy being referee.My son does have a job and he has had it for 8yrs now ,and he is capable of taking care of the children,sometimes not like I would but as you said,he is the father not me and as parents we all think we could do better.My question is how do I tell them no more having me in the middle without risking my time with the kids?I am the sole care taker when they work.Nobody else even offers to care for them,not even in her family,which is fine with me,but I see her every day and I know her life as well as my sons.She will not have a conversation with my son without telling him something is none of his business even if it is about the children.Thats how I got put in the middle to start with."you can tell him this or that"was the words she used. She thinks he isnt capable of handling the kids and has threatened to keep them from him if he isnt supervised yet nothing is in court form of any kind. I want my son to be happy with his children because I know that I wont always be around,but it has been placed in my lap like this and I dont know what to do. I feel that fathers are just as important as mothers.Just simply being a parent and being there for your children deserves credit in its-self,doesnt matter if you are a mother or father.